X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com X-SpamCatcher-Score: 69 [XX] (50%) HTML: title tag is empty (50%) HEADERS: mail has MS Outlook properties but missing "Outlook" in "X-Mailer" Headers Return-Path: Received: from bay0-omc2-s10.bay0.hotmail.com ([65.54.246.146] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 5.1.3) with ESMTP id 1652778 for flyrotary@lancaironline.net; Thu, 07 Dec 2006 21:37:05 -0500 Received-SPF: pass receiver=logan.com; client-ip=65.54.246.146; envelope-from=lors01@msn.com Received: from hotmail.com ([65.54.250.74]) by bay0-omc2-s10.bay0.hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.2668); Thu, 7 Dec 2006 18:34:38 -0800 Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Thu, 7 Dec 2006 18:34:38 -0800 Message-ID: Received: from 4.171.129.86 by BAY115-DAV2.phx.gbl with DAV; Fri, 08 Dec 2006 02:34:37 +0000 X-Originating-IP: [4.171.129.86] X-Originating-Email: [lors01@msn.com] X-Sender: lors01@msn.com From: "Tracy Crook" To: "Rotary motors in aircraft" References: Subject: Re: [FlyRotary] Re: MSD coils - Plug Fouling... again. Date: Thu, 7 Dec 2006 21:34:31 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/related; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_00B1_01C71A47.7AFA1B40"; type="multipart/alternative" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: MSN 9 X-MimeOLE: Produced By MSN MimeOLE V9.50.0034.2000 Seal-Send-Time: Thu, 7 Dec 2006 21:34:31 -0500 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 08 Dec 2006 02:34:38.0485 (UTC) FILETIME=[682E7450:01C71A71] Return-Path: lors01@msn.com This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_00B1_01C71A47.7AFA1B40 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_001_00B2_01C71A47.7AFA1B40" ------=_NextPart_001_00B2_01C71A47.7AFA1B40 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable If the MSD coils are plug-in replacements for the stock LS1 coils they = will work with the EC2 as-is. Having said that, I doubt that they would = help with flooded engine problems. =20 I'm running the Renesis coils on my 20B and not having any problems so = far. The LS1 coils on my 13B Renesis have performed well and I have not = had a flooded engine problem in the last 9 years. I changed my plugs to iridium type (stock Renesis parts) about 210 hours = ago and they have been wonderful. Never a hint of 'SAG' but I have run = only a few tanks of 100LL during that time. Proper priming and starting procedures are the keys to easy starting and = avoidance of carbon fouling. Tracy (sending Blue Mountain EFIS back for updates) ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Dennis Haverlah=20 To: Rotary motors in aircraft=20 Sent: Thursday, December 07, 2006 3:43 PM Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: MSD coils - Plug Fouling... again. Tracy,=20 Is there a way to economically control the MSD coils with the EC-2? = Lynn is very satisfied with the Mallory Hifire system in the racing = environment. Having this high energy ignition system in a rotary = powered A/C could possibly reduce or eliminate the "sag " problem and = make starting a flooded engine much easier. More spark energy could = also increase HP and/or increase fuel efficiency. Currently I am ground = running my Renesis and have already experienced plug fouling with = carbon. That makes me suspicious that the Mazda ignition system is = marginal at best. Anyone have any comments?? Dennis H. Bobby J. Hughes wrote: From Lynn's post. We need not do that anymore because we have the Mallory Hifire or = MSD ignition systems where we can insert over one amp of electrical = energy into the plugs per thousand RPM. The rise times are so short and = voltages are so high, that even a carbon fouled plug fires=20 We use the NGK R6725-115 plugs, gapped at .010". They have a = retracted gap and fine wire electrodes. The heat range is ice cold. I = have never fouled one. We use a MSD for leading and trailing. Even = driving slowly to the false grid on a cold morning, no problems. Lynn, These LS1 replacement coils have 3 times the energy of the stock = coils and fire in a shorter time. Could these be worth testing if = Tracy's controller is compatible?=20 Bobby -------------------------------------------------------------------------= --- -------------------------------------------------------------------------= --- -- Homepage: http://www.flyrotary.com/ Archive and UnSub: = http://mail.lancaironline.net/lists/flyrotary/ ------=_NextPart_001_00B2_01C71A47.7AFA1B40 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
If the MSD coils are plug-in replacements for the stock LS1 coils = they will=20 work with the EC2 as-is.  Having said that, I doubt that they would = help=20 with flooded engine problems. 
 
I'm running the Renesis coils on my 20B and not having any problems = so=20 far.  The LS1 coils on my 13B Renesis have performed well and = I have=20 not had a flooded engine problem in the last 9 years.
 
I changed my plugs to iridium type (stock Renesis parts) about 210 = hours=20 ago and they have been wonderful.  Never a hint of 'SAG' but I have = run=20 only a few tanks of 100LL during that time.
 
Proper priming and starting procedures are the keys to easy = starting=20 and avoidance of carbon fouling.
 
Tracy (sending Blue Mountain EFIS back for updates)
----- Original Message -----
From: Dennis Haverlah
To: Rotary motors in = aircraft
Sent: Thursday, December 07, = 2006 3:43=20 PM
Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: MSD = coils - Plug=20 Fouling... again.

Tracy,

Is there a way to economically control = the MSD=20 coils with the EC-2?  Lynn is very satisfied with the Mallory = Hifire=20 system in the racing environment.  Having this high energy = ignition=20 system in a rotary powered A/C could possibly reduce or eliminate the = "sag "=20 problem and make starting a flooded engine much easier.  More = spark=20 energy could also increase HP and/or increase fuel efficiency.  = Currently=20 I am ground running my Renesis and have already experienced plug = fouling with=20 carbon.  That makes me suspicious that the Mazda ignition system = is=20 marginal at best.  Anyone have any comments??

Dennis=20 H.

Bobby J. Hughes wrote:
From Lynn's=20 post.
 
We need not do that anymore because we have the Mallory Hifire = or MSD=20 ignition systems where we can insert over one amp of electrical = energy into=20 the plugs per thousand RPM. The rise times are = so short=20 and voltages are so high, that even a carbon fouled plug fires=20

We use the NGK R6725-115 plugs, gapped at .010". They = have a=20 retracted gap and fine wire electrodes. The heat range is ice cold. = I have=20 never fouled one. We use a MSD for leading and trailing. Even = driving slowly=20 to the false grid on a cold morning, no problems.
 
 
Lynn,
 
These LS1=20 replacement coils have 3 times the energy of the stock coils and = fire in a=20 shorter time.  Could these be worth testing if Tracy's = controller=20 is compatible?
 
Bobby
 
 
 




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