X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com Return-Path: Received: from imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net ([205.152.59.70] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 5.1c.3) with ESMTP id 1333180 for flyrotary@lancaironline.net; Tue, 15 Aug 2006 20:04:15 -0400 Received-SPF: pass receiver=logan.com; client-ip=205.152.59.70; envelope-from=ceengland@bellsouth.net Received: from ibm67aec.bellsouth.net ([209.215.60.61]) by imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net with ESMTP id <20060816000327.OVWG17236.imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net@ibm67aec.bellsouth.net> for ; Tue, 15 Aug 2006 20:03:27 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (really [209.215.60.61]) by ibm67aec.bellsouth.net with ESMTP id <20060816000326.VGLY18082.ibm67aec.bellsouth.net@[127.0.0.1]> for ; Tue, 15 Aug 2006 20:03:26 -0400 Message-ID: <44E260CD.8070802@bellsouth.net> Date: Tue, 15 Aug 2006 19:03:25 -0500 From: Charlie England User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.2) Gecko/20040804 Netscape/7.2 (ax) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Rotary motors in aircraft Subject: Re: [FlyRotary] Re: Emailing: DoorOpenLside.jpg References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Ed Anderson wrote: > Hi Ben, good question concerning safety. The door hydraulic > cylinders are single acting push-only. A restrictor valve holds the > door open and a push of a button opens the value to let the fluid back > into the tank thereby lowering the doors. The doors do not slam down > but do come down within 10-15 seconds (will have to time and see > exactly how long it takes). > > But, regardless of double acting or single acting if a hose breaks you > could be in trouble as you suggest. I intend to have 9-10 foot pipes > attached to main beam that when the door is open, I can pull down and > set to hold the door up. That way should a hose fail the door won't > slam down. These are 4000 psi bursting lines with 450 psi maximum > pressure - so hopefully I am not over stressing them. > > It could certainly ruin your day to have that door come down on you. > > Thanks for mentioning it - safety is always a high concern. > > Ed Hi Ed, The door looks great. FWIW, you might be able to mechanically 'safety' the hydraulic cylinders with tubes over the cylinders themselves. If the business end of the cylinder is more or less flat, the tube would be big enough to slide over the cylinder but slightly shorter than the ram stroke & be hinged on the same pin that holds the ram to the door. When the ram extends, gravity pulls the free end off-center & it will prevent the ram from retracting. (not my idea; it's on some gas struts on some of our equipment at work) More details available, but I'm too lazy to type them all. Give me a call if you're interested. Charlie 601-879-9596 until 7:30 pm or 601-351-066 tomorrow morning after 2:00 AM