X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com Return-Path: Received: from mail24.syd.optusnet.com.au ([211.29.133.165] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 5.1c.2) with ESMTPS id 1311293 for flyrotary@lancaironline.net; Fri, 21 Jul 2006 22:02:42 -0400 Received-SPF: error receiver=logan.com; client-ip=211.29.133.165; envelope-from=lendich@optusnet.com.au Received: from george (d58-105-75-223.dsl.nsw.optusnet.com.au [58.105.75.223]) by mail24.syd.optusnet.com.au (8.12.11/8.12.11) with SMTP id k6M21JIR018958 for ; Sat, 22 Jul 2006 12:01:20 +1000 Message-ID: <002901c6ad32$bcfac940$df4b693a@george> From: "george lendich" To: "Rotary motors in aircraft" References: Subject: Re: [FlyRotary] Re: PPort, Telescopic intake slide throttle combo Date: Sat, 22 Jul 2006 12:01:24 +1000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Thanks Cary, Looking forward to any results/suggestions! George (down under) > Hi George/Buly; > > I did the slide throttle myself the old fashioned way with a basic > milling machine. > It differs quite a bit from Paul Lamar's designs. I don't recommend the > notch ;) > Works well, although I would do everything different if I did it again. > > Copy away! Let us know how it turns out. > > The trombones slide easily enough, requires a few ounces of pressure > going down, > a bit more (bad guess 16oz?) sliding up. > A lot of head scratching and tricks to get everything to line up well > enough. > I wasn't sure if it could be realistically done - the next test is at > temp with airflow. > The Pport (2") and port timing are very similar to the Mazda Lemans > (slightly later open/close)- > so I have a pretty good map to follow. > Yep, slides well despite the threaded rod. The rod helped lining things up. > I'm not sure if using linear bearings or teflon bushings along the Mazda > Lemans design > would be better. > > The current setup is ground adjustable - a throttle cable could be > adapted easily enough. > I am not sure if I will use a wideband Oxygen sensor to get the rough > tuning or not. > I would certainly be able to tune using standard Oxygen sensors during > flight. > If nothing else, I can find the tuned lengths and build another lighter > intake. > I have not built the plane yet, so don't wait for me! > this engine may get car testing time first... > > I'll try to throw some material sources, pictures, instructions and > hints together sometime > after Oshkosh. > > Cheers > Cary > > > > > > Cary, > Love the 'trombone like' intake ( simple and effective) and was wondering if > that was one of PL's slide throttle or something you did yourself. > I would like to copy that if I may, to identify the tuned length of my 1.75" > P-port. Is that threaded rod that you have used on the slide guide? > It would be very interesting indeed if you managed to get an in-flight > adjustable tuned intake and measure it's effectiveness. > Personally I would be happy to just test for the best length at cruise. > Keep up the good work! > George (down under) > > > > Hi All; > > Posted this on the other list - some of you may be interested in this > > teststand setup as well... > > > > I was hoping to have this setup running months ago on the test stand > > with the Megasquirt - damn work is interfering with more interesting > > activities... > > The slide throttle is flush with keg. The notch was to avoid the stock > > water pump, I wish I had been annoyed enough to chop it up earlier... > > Same for the adjustable, telescopic intake. I will rebuild almost flush > > with the engine and at a different angle flush with the bottom of the > > oil pan after testing. > > Usable range (from rotor housing face) is 19-27". Could be modified for > > inflight adjustment. > > Injector location will probably make it difficult to pull fuel uphill > > for start - we will see. > > Based on Francois' (Mistral) comments I will probably move the injectors > > closer to the keg. > > Besides, they are mucking up the airflow. > > One of the objectives was to take advantage of the smaller rotary > > profile - the height/width could be shrunk further... > > > > Cheers > > Cary > > > -- > Homepage: http://www.flyrotary.com/ > Archive and UnSub: http://mail.lancaironline.net/lists/flyrotary/