X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com Return-Path: Received: from smtp105.plus.mail.re2.yahoo.com ([206.190.53.30] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 5.1c.2) with SMTP id 1239706 for flyrotary@lancaironline.net; Mon, 17 Jul 2006 07:36:47 -0400 Received-SPF: none receiver=logan.com; client-ip=206.190.53.30; envelope-from=prvt_pilot@yahoo.com Received: (qmail 58605 invoked from network); 17 Jul 2006 11:35:58 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Received:From:To:Subject:Date:Message-ID:MIME-Version:Content-Type:X-Priority:X-MSMail-Priority:X-Mailer:In-Reply-To:X-MimeOLE:Importance; b=JeXCw6p/rvRxRXzgg8THD3YLJuzOjPmQ5Z0qL4AbDAKMzNe4tAB10YmqkokDJ2q1OvDFvVUI3a+sZHRoiYd4YkxLuqC4SWmJRo+0dKUp7+XD/x1PqyJv2574wrpqHAY063jm8d752RyCOXJsY6GKmFfad6DdVEm750dcFN8fUe4= ; Received: from unknown (HELO stevehome) (prvt?pilot@71.55.75.37 with login) by smtp105.plus.mail.re2.yahoo.com with SMTP; 17 Jul 2006 11:35:57 -0000 From: "Steve Brooks" To: "Rotary motors in aircraft" Subject: RE: [FlyRotary] Re: damage report Date: Mon, 17 Jul 2006 07:36:04 -0400 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0057_01C6A973.A89D92B0" X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) In-Reply-To: X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1807 Importance: Normal This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0057_01C6A973.A89D92B0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Bill, My engine set up is the same as yours, and so are my oil pressures. Steve Brooks -----Original Message----- From: Rotary motors in aircraft [mailto:flyrotary@lancaironline.net]On Behalf Of Bill Eslick Sent: Sunday, July 16, 2006 10:54 PM To: Rotary motors in aircraft Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: damage report Tracy, I reset the EC2 to the "RV-Otter" settings (cold start on), and it is very close now. Got rid of most of the staging stutter too! Now a question about oil pressure for the group. Since I removed the balls and springs from the rotor jets and have stock jets, here are my oil pressure readings. Somebody let me know if this looks like enough flow. Cruising at 5350 RPM, Oil Temp Oil Pressure 160 86 195 75 201 70 and at idle RPM with Oil Temp at 170, RPM Oil Pressure 1250 19 2000 37 -- Bill Eslick www.weslick.com/RV6Index.htm On 7/13/06, Tracy Crook wrote: Latest software for the EC2 addresses this problem. If you haven't upgraded since around Mar 2005, this is highly recommended. In the mean time, I suggest 16 - 17" Hg for staging point. Yes, changing staging point means you have to re-do the map table in this area. In the mean time, If you are having this surge and have an EM2, step to the map entry just above the staging point and richen it and the next two about 30 - 40. This problem is usually caused by the engine going lean right after the staging point. You can do it without an EM2 but it requires a bit of finesse. Turning up the mixture control will also eliminate the surge but the engine will probably be running rich under the staging point. Tracy (really not wanting to drum-up update business) ----- Original Message ----- From: James Maher To: Rotary motors in aircraft Sent: Thursday, July 13, 2006 4:45 PM Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: damage report Bill, If/when you find a solution to the annoying surge during high idle/taxi let us all know what it is. I too am experiencing this annoyance. I think we need to set the staging point higher but have not tried this yet. Jim Bill Eslick wrote: SNIP Now that the engine is running correctly again, I have to start all over again programming my EC2! That nasty crossover point at 15" MAP is giving me an annoying surge at a high idle (taxi) speed. Hope a close reading of my manual will let me sort that out. SNIP ------=_NextPart_000_0057_01C6A973.A89D92B0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Bill,
My=20 engine set up is the same as yours, and so are my oil pressures. =20
 
Steve=20 Brooks
 
-----Original Message-----
From: Rotary motors in = aircraft=20 [mailto:flyrotary@lancaironline.net]On Behalf Of Bill=20 Eslick
Sent: Sunday, July 16, 2006 10:54 PM
To: = Rotary=20 motors in aircraft
Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: damage=20 report

Tracy,
 
I reset the EC2 to the "RV-Otter" settings (cold start on), and = it is=20 very close now.  Got rid of most of the staging stutter = too!
 
Now a question about oil pressure for the group.  Since I = removed=20 the balls and springs from the rotor jets and have stock jets, here = are my oil=20 pressure readings.  Somebody let me know if this looks like = enough flow.=20
 
Cruising at 5350 RPM,
 
Oil Temp     Oil Pressure
=
160           = ;    =20 86
=
195           = ;    =20 75
=
201           = ;    =20 70
 
and at idle RPM with Oil Temp at 170,
 
RPM         Oil = Pressure
=
1250          &nbs= p;  =20 19
=
2000          &nbs= p;   37
 
--
Bill Eslick  
www.weslick.com/RV6Index.htm= =20

 
On 7/13/06, Tracy=20 Crook <lors01@msn.com> = wrote:=20
Latest software for the EC2 addresses this problem.   = If you=20 haven't upgraded since around Mar 2005, this is highly=20 recommended. 
 
In the mean time, I suggest 16 - 17" Hg for staging = point.  Yes,=20 changing staging point means you have to re-do the map table in = this=20 area.   In the mean time, If you are having this surge=20 and have an EM2,  step to the map entry just above the = staging=20 point and richen it and the next two about 30 - 40.  =
 
This problem is usually caused by the engine going lean right = after the=20 staging point.   You can do it without an EM2 but it = requires a=20 bit of finesse.   Turning up the mixture control will also = eliminate the surge but the engine will probably be running rich = under the=20 staging point.
 
Tracy  (really not wanting to drum-up update = business)
----- Original Message -----
From: James = Maher
To: Rotary = motors in=20 aircraft
Sent: Thursday, July 13, 2006 = 4:45=20 PM
Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: = damage=20 report

 
Bill,
If/when you find a solution to the annoying surge during high=20 idle/taxi
let us all know what it is.
I too am experiencing this annoyance.
I think we need to set the staging point higher but have = not tried=20 this yet.
 
Jim

Bill Eslick <wgeslick@gmail.com=20 > wrote:
SNIP
 
Now that the engine is running correctly again, I have to = start all=20 over again programming my EC2!  That nasty crossover point at = 15"  MAP is giving me an annoying surge at a high idle (taxi) = speed.  Hope a close reading of my manual will let me sort = that=20 out. 
 
 
SNIP
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