X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com Return-Path: Received: from ms-smtp-04.southeast.rr.com ([24.25.9.103] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 5.1c.2) with ESMTP id 1239691 for flyrotary@lancaironline.net; Mon, 17 Jul 2006 07:27:00 -0400 Received-SPF: pass receiver=logan.com; client-ip=24.25.9.103; envelope-from=eanderson@carolina.rr.com Received: from edward2 (cpe-024-074-111-186.carolina.res.rr.com [24.74.111.186]) by ms-smtp-04.southeast.rr.com (8.13.6/8.13.6) with SMTP id k6HBQCj6022137 for ; Mon, 17 Jul 2006 07:26:14 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <000d01c6a993$da751270$2402a8c0@edward2> From: "Ed Anderson" To: "Rotary motors in aircraft" References: Subject: Re: [FlyRotary] Re: damage report Date: Mon, 17 Jul 2006 07:26:31 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_000A_01C6A972.531BE220" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2869 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2869 X-Virus-Scanned: Symantec AntiVirus Scan Engine This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_000A_01C6A972.531BE220 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Bill, my oil pressure is 70 psi above 5000 rpm, 50 psi around 4000 rpm = and about 35 psi below 2800 rpm to idle. Your cruise oil pressure looks fine to me. 19 psi at idle looks a bit = low - but should be plenty for idle. Ed ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Bill Eslick=20 To: Rotary motors in aircraft=20 Sent: Sunday, July 16, 2006 10:54 PM Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: damage report Tracy, I reset the EC2 to the "RV-Otter" settings (cold start on), and it is = very close now. Got rid of most of the staging stutter too! Now a question about oil pressure for the group. Since I removed the = balls and springs from the rotor jets and have stock jets, here are my = oil pressure readings. Somebody let me know if this looks like enough = flow.=20 Cruising at 5350 RPM,=20 Oil Temp Oil Pressure 160 86 195 75 201 70 and at idle RPM with Oil Temp at 170, RPM Oil Pressure 1250 19 2000 37 --=20 Bill Eslick =20 www.weslick.com/RV6Index.htm=20 =20 On 7/13/06, Tracy Crook wrote:=20 Latest software for the EC2 addresses this problem. If you haven't = upgraded since around Mar 2005, this is highly recommended.=20 In the mean time, I suggest 16 - 17" Hg for staging point. Yes, = changing staging point means you have to re-do the map table in this = area. In the mean time, If you are having this surge and have an EM2, = step to the map entry just above the staging point and richen it and the = next two about 30 - 40. =20 This problem is usually caused by the engine going lean right after = the staging point. You can do it without an EM2 but it requires a bit = of finesse. Turning up the mixture control will also eliminate the = surge but the engine will probably be running rich under the staging = point.=20 Tracy (really not wanting to drum-up update business) ----- Original Message -----=20 From: James Maher=20 To: Rotary motors in aircraft=20 Sent: Thursday, July 13, 2006 4:45 PM Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: damage report =20 Bill, If/when you find a solution to the annoying surge during high = idle/taxi let us all know what it is. I too am experiencing this annoyance. I think we need to set the staging point higher but have not tried = this yet. Jim Bill Eslick wrote: SNIP Now that the engine is running correctly again, I have to start = all over again programming my EC2! That nasty crossover point at 15" = MAP is giving me an annoying surge at a high idle (taxi) speed. Hope a = close reading of my manual will let me sort that out. =20 SNIP ------=_NextPart_000_000A_01C6A972.531BE220 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Bill, my oil pressure is 70 psi above 5000 rpm, = 50 psi=20 around 4000 rpm and about 35 psi below 2800 rpm to idle.
 
  Your cruise oil pressure looks fine = to=20 me.  19 psi at idle looks a bit low - but should be plenty for=20 idle.
 
Ed
 
----- Original Message -----
From:=20 Bill = Eslick=20
Sent: Sunday, July 16, 2006 = 10:54=20 PM
Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: damage = report

Tracy,
 
I reset the EC2 to the "RV-Otter" settings (cold start on), and = it is=20 very close now.  Got rid of most of the staging stutter = too!
 
Now a question about oil pressure for the group.  Since I = removed=20 the balls and springs from the rotor jets and have stock jets, here = are my oil=20 pressure readings.  Somebody let me know if this looks like = enough flow.=20
 
Cruising at 5350 RPM,
 
Oil Temp     Oil Pressure
=
160           = ;    =20 86
=
195           = ;    =20 75
=
201           = ;    =20 70
 
and at idle RPM with Oil Temp at 170,
 
RPM         Oil = Pressure
=
1250          &nbs= p;  =20 19
=
2000          &nbs= p;   37
 
--
Bill Eslick  
www.weslick.com/RV6Index.htm= =20

 
On 7/13/06, Tracy=20 Crook <lors01@msn.com> = wrote:=20
Latest software for the EC2 addresses this problem.   = If you=20 haven't upgraded since around Mar 2005, this is highly=20 recommended. 
 
In the mean time, I suggest 16 - 17" Hg for staging = point.  Yes,=20 changing staging point means you have to re-do the map table in = this=20 area.   In the mean time, If you are having this surge=20 and have an EM2,  step to the map entry just above the = staging=20 point and richen it and the next two about 30 - 40.  =
 
This problem is usually caused by the engine going lean right = after the=20 staging point.   You can do it without an EM2 but it = requires a=20 bit of finesse.   Turning up the mixture control will also = eliminate the surge but the engine will probably be running rich = under the=20 staging point.
 
Tracy  (really not wanting to drum-up update = business)
----- Original Message -----
From: James = Maher
To: Rotary = motors in=20 aircraft
Sent: Thursday, July 13, 2006 = 4:45=20 PM
Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: = damage=20 report

 
Bill,
If/when you find a solution to the annoying surge during high=20 idle/taxi
let us all know what it is.
I too am experiencing this annoyance.
I think we need to set the staging point higher but have = not tried=20 this yet.
 
Jim

Bill Eslick <wgeslick@gmail.com=20 > wrote:
SNIP
 
Now that the engine is running correctly again, I have to = start all=20 over again programming my EC2!  That nasty crossover point at = 15"  MAP is giving me an annoying surge at a high idle (taxi) = speed.  Hope a close reading of my manual will let me sort = that=20 out. 
 
 
SNIP
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