X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com Return-Path: Received: from mail11.syd.optusnet.com.au ([211.29.132.192] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 5.1c.2) with ESMTPS id 1239166 for flyrotary@lancaironline.net; Sun, 16 Jul 2006 19:21:35 -0400 Received-SPF: none receiver=logan.com; client-ip=211.29.132.192; envelope-from=lendich@optusnet.com.au Received: from george (d58-104-190-41.dsl.nsw.optusnet.com.au [58.104.190.41]) by mail11.syd.optusnet.com.au (8.12.11/8.12.11) with SMTP id k6GNKX7H024007 for ; Mon, 17 Jul 2006 09:20:34 +1000 Message-ID: <008101c6a92e$75bf0300$29be683a@george> From: "george lendich" To: "Rotary motors in aircraft" References: Subject: Re: [FlyRotary] Re: Fw: Engine flanges. Date: Mon, 17 Jul 2006 09:20:42 +1000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_007E_01C6A982.46AA8220" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_007E_01C6A982.46AA8220 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MessageOK Bill - where do I sent it, it's AutoCAD 2004. You too Buly. Contact me at lendich@optusnet.com.au and I will reply with the = drawings. Just check that the exhaust port is the size you want it. I made mine to = fit the Cosmo, which is larger than normal exhaust ports at 2"- you may = wish to change that size, however from discussion with Bill Jepson, he = suggests that the exit is better to be a bit larger than a bit too = small. I had it cut from 6mm SS. Just to make things difficult the bolt holes are different from port = centre, and it took me ages to get this right. I must have cut a dozen = templates to get it right, it's not as if you can mark it from the = inside. Happy to help - always! George ( down under) ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Bill Schertz=20 To: Rotary motors in aircraft=20 Sent: Monday, July 17, 2006 8:57 AM Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: Fw: Engine flanges. George, I would be interested in the drawing, and apparently so would Buly.=20 Mine were made off of a pattern that Kevin made, and they are beefier = than necessary, but probably won't warp too bad either. Bill Schertz KIS Cruiser # 4045 ----- Original Message -----=20 From: george lendich=20 To: Rotary motors in aircraft=20 Sent: Sunday, July 16, 2006 5:47 PM Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: Fw: Engine flanges. Bill. I wasn't sure that you were talking about exhaust flanges - I have = a drawing on those that would have saved you some time. It took me ages = to get the exit hole accurate and mine aren't as big as yours, are you = sure you made them big enough- just ribbing ya!. I had mine water jet cut (cheapest quote) $15-00 each, however the = water jet does taper a little on thicker material and I made the hole = just a tad smaller and trimmed it in the lathe. I will send you the drawings if you need them! George ( down under) Here are two. Bill Schertz KIS Cruiser # 4045 ----- Original Message -----=20 From: george lendich=20 To: Rotary motors in aircraft=20 Sent: Sunday, July 16, 2006 1:27 AM Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: Fw: Engine flanges. Bill - what sort of flanges are those, any pictures? George ( down under) ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Bill Schertz=20 To: Rotary motors in aircraft=20 Sent: Sunday, July 16, 2006 12:33 PM Subject: [FlyRotary] Fw: Engine flanges. Brit Adams cuts very nice ones out of 321 SS (laser cut). Bill Schertz KIS Cruiser # 4045 ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Brit Adams=20 To: William=20 Sent: Wednesday, March 02, 2005 6:06 PM Subject: RE: Engine flanges. William, Well, it is nice to know I have Kevin fooled! We can cut you two flanges with the proposed change, no = problem. You are looking at $25 ea for them. Shipping would be = additional. When they are done, we can call you, get a credit card = number and take care of it all then. I will wait for a verification email to proceed with this = understanding: Cut two of the same flanges that Kevin designed (I already = verified that he is okay with that), except put a 1.75" diameter bore in = them. I will put the center of the bore in line with the bolt holes = left-to-right, and at that 2.4/2.6 coordinate up-to-down (.100" off of = centered between the bolt holes). If that is okay, we will get going, and should be able to have = them on UPS (or other) in a week or less. Let me know, and thanks for the inquiry. Brit Adams Laser Cutting Services -----Original Message----- From: William [mailto:wschertz@ispwest.com]=20 Sent: Wednesday, March 02, 2005 02:30 PM To: Brit Adams Subject: Engine flanges. Brit Adams You were recommended to me by Kevin Lane, (see note below) I am interested in having some flanges very similiar to what = Kevin had made, from 304 Stainless steel. The only change that I would want is to have the center hole = be circular (i.e. round) for 1.75" tube to be welded into place. The = picture sony 001.jpg is a photo of the flanges you made below, = Scan10023_c.jpg is a scan Kevin's drawing showing the desired change to = a round hole instead of the peculiarly shaped one. Are you willing to make more flanges? I am in need of two of = them. What would be your price and turnaround time? Thank you William Schertz 630-460-8423 Wschertz@ispwest.com Note from Kevin below. -------------------------------------------- Laser Cutting Services PO Box 1945 Lake Oswego OR 97035 (503) 612-8311 Brit programs the laser, takes care of orders, seems quite = competent, returns calls, double checks discrepancies etc.... Brit Adams E-mail Address(es): Brit@lasercuttingservices.com Kevin Lane Portland, OR e-mail-> n3773@comcast.net web-> http://home.comcast.net/~n3773 (browse w/ internet explorer) ----- Original Message -----=20 From: kevin lane=20 To: Rotary motors in aircraft=20 Sent: Tuesday, March 01, 2005 6:32 PM Subject: [FlyRotary] laser parts my flanges came back from Laser Cutting Services. They = have been great people to deal with. I left the slug in the one flange = to show how thin a cut the laser makes. Apparently water jet cutting = produces even a finer cut, but for small production runs laser is = cheaper. These are 3/8" 304 stainless.=20 -------------------------------------------------------------------------= - -- Homepage: http://www.flyrotary.com/ Archive and UnSub: = http://mail.lancaironline.net/lists/flyrotary/ ------=_NextPart_000_007E_01C6A982.46AA8220 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message
OK Bill - where do I sent it, it's = AutoCAD=20 2004.
You too Buly.
Contact me at lendich@optusnet.com.au = and I=20 will reply with the drawings.
Just check that the exhaust port is the = size you=20 want it. I made mine to fit the Cosmo, which is larger than normal = exhaust ports=20 at 2"- you may wish to change that size, however from discussion with = Bill=20 Jepson, he suggests that the exit is better to be a bit larger than a = bit too=20 small. I had it cut from 6mm SS.
Just to make things difficult the bolt = holes are=20 different from port centre, and it took me ages to get this right. I = must have=20 cut a dozen templates to get it right, it's not as if you can mark it = from the=20 inside.
Happy to help - always!
George ( down under)
----- Original Message -----
From:=20 Bill=20 Schertz
Sent: Monday, July 17, 2006 = 8:57 AM
Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: Fw: = Engine=20 flanges.

George,
I would be interested in the drawing, = and=20 apparently so would Buly.
 
Mine were made off of a pattern that = Kevin made,=20 and they are beefier than necessary, but probably won't warp too bad=20 either.
 
Bill Schertz
KIS Cruiser # = 4045
----- Original Message -----
From:=20 george lendich
To: Rotary motors in = aircraft=20
Sent: Sunday, July 16, 2006 = 5:47=20 PM
Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: Fw: = Engine=20 flanges.

 
Bill.
I wasn't sure that you were = talking=20 about exhaust flanges - I have a drawing on those that would have = saved=20 you some time. It took me ages to get the exit hole accurate and = mine=20 aren't as big as yours, are you sure you made them big enough- = just=20 ribbing ya!.
I had mine water jet cut (cheapest = quote)=20 $15-00 each, however the water jet does taper a little on thicker = material=20 and I made the hole just a tad smaller and trimmed it in the = lathe.
I will send you the drawings if = you need=20 them!
George ( down under)

Here are two.
Bill Schertz
KIS Cruiser # 4045
----- Original Message ----- =
From:=20 george lendich =
To: Rotary motors in = aircraft=20
Sent: Sunday, July 16, = 2006 1:27=20 AM
Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: = Fw: Engine=20 flanges.

Bill - what sort of flanges are = those, any=20 pictures?
George ( down = under)
----- Original Message ----- =
From:=20 Bill=20 Schertz
To: Rotary motors in=20 aircraft
Sent: Sunday, July 16, = 2006 12:33=20 PM
Subject: [FlyRotary] = Fw: Engine=20 flanges.

Brit Adams cuts very nice = ones out of 321=20 SS (laser cut).
Bill Schertz
KIS Cruiser # 4045
----- Original Message -----=20
From: Brit Adams =
To: William
Sent: Wednesday, March 02, 2005 6:06 PM
Subject: RE: Engine flanges.

William,
 
Well, it is nice to know I have Kevin=20 fooled!
 
We can cut you two flanges with the proposed change, = no=20 problem. You are looking at $25 ea for them. Shipping would be = additional. When they are done, we can call you, get a credit = card=20 number and take care of it all then.
 
I will wait for a verification email to proceed with = this=20 understanding:
 
Cut two of the same flanges that Kevin designed (I = already=20 verified that he is okay with that), except put a 1.75" = diameter bore=20 in them. I will put the center of the bore in line with the = bolt holes=20 left-to-right, and at that 2.4/2.6 coordinate up-to-down = (.100" off of=20 centered between the bolt holes).
 
If that is okay, we will get going, and should be = able to have=20 them on UPS (or other) in a week or less.
 
Let me know, and thanks for the = inquiry.
 
Brit Adams
Laser Cutting Services
-----Original = Message-----
From:=20 William [mailto:wschertz@ispwest.com]
Sent: = Wednesday,=20 March 02, 2005 02:30 PM
To: Brit = Adams
Subject:=20 Engine flanges.

Brit Adams
You were recommended to me = by Kevin=20 Lane, (see note below)
 
I am interested in having = some flanges=20 very similiar to what Kevin had made, from 304 Stainless=20 steel.
 
The only change that I = would want is to=20 have the center hole be circular (i.e. round) for 1.75" tube = to be=20 welded into place. The picture sony 001.jpg is a photo of = the=20 flanges you made below, Scan10023_c.jpg is a scan Kevin's = drawing=20 showing the desired change to a round hole instead of the = peculiarly=20 shaped one.
 
Are you willing to make = more flanges? I=20 am in need of two of them.  What would be your price = and=20 turnaround time?
 
Thank you
William = Schertz
630-460-8423
Wschertz@ispwest.com
 
Note from Kevin = below.
--------------------------------------------
Laser Cutting Services
PO Box 1945
Lake Oswego OR 97035
(503) 612-8311
Brit programs the laser, takes care of orders, seems = quite=20 competent, returns calls, double checks discrepancies = etc....
Brit Adams
E-mail Address(es):
  Brit@lasercuttingservices.c= om
 
 
Kevin Lane  Portland, OR
e-mail-> n3773@comcast.net
web-> http://home.comcast.net/~n3773
(browse=20 w/ internet explorer)
----- Original Message -----
From:=20 kevin lane=20
To: Rotary motors in=20 aircraft=20
Sent: Tuesday, March 01, = 2005 6:32=20 PM
Subject: [FlyRotary] = laser=20 parts

my flanges came back from Laser Cutting = Services. =20 They have been great people to deal with.  I left = the slug=20 in the one flange to show how thin a cut the laser = makes. =20 Apparently water jet cutting produces even a finer cut, = but for=20 small production runs laser is cheaper.  These are = 3/8" 304=20 stainless.=20 =

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