X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com Return-Path: Received: from alnrmhc11.comcast.net ([204.127.225.91] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 5.1c.2) with ESMTP id 1239105 for flyrotary@lancaironline.net; Sun, 16 Jul 2006 17:16:57 -0400 Received-SPF: none receiver=logan.com; client-ip=204.127.225.91; envelope-from=wschertz@comcast.net Received: from 7n7z201 (c-24-7-194-200.hsd1.il.comcast.net[24.7.194.200]) by comcast.net (alnrmhc11) with SMTP id <20060716211613b1100o79foe>; Sun, 16 Jul 2006 21:16:13 +0000 Message-ID: <001401c6a91d$10a1c220$c8c20718@7n7z201> From: "Bill Schertz" To: "Rotary motors in aircraft" References: Subject: Re: [FlyRotary] Cooling non-test Date: Sun, 16 Jul 2006 16:16:11 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2869 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2869 Bob, Why do you have the leaf blower at 90 degrees to the inlet tube, I suspect you lose a lot of pressure with the plenum box. Bill Schertz KIS Cruiser # 4045 ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bob White" To: "Rotary motors in aircraft" Sent: Sunday, July 16, 2006 11:37 AM Subject: [FlyRotary] Cooling non-test > Ernest's recent cooling experiment inspired me to try the same. I > spent about 1/2 day building the test setup shown in the photo. I > don't have a sensitive flow or pressure meter so I tried using a water > manometer. I pointed the end at the surface of the radiator like a > pitot tube. Net result, the flow is so slow by the time it exits the > radiator that I got no indication at all on the manometer. Not helping > is the fact that I'm not testing one core, but both water cores and the > oil core together. I did get some qualitative data by holding a strip > of paper against the surface. There was some airflow coming thru the > cores over the entire surface. > > I put the tip of the manometer a foot or two directly in the cone of the > apparatus (what else can I call it?) and got a pressure of about 1 inch > of watter. Putting it directly in the end of the leaf blower was about > 3 inches. So I need a bigger leaf blower! > > Since the test didn't tell me a whole lot, I put the prop on and > started the engine. This is the first time I've run the engine with > the cowling on. It was about 90F, and the temps came up slowly to > 180-190F. I ran the engine up to 4000 rpm for a while until it started > running very poorly due to vapor lock. Photo 2 is an early picture of > my exhaust system. Oil and water temps went up to 200-210F and were > still climbing. > > Basically I have a can sitting at 1000F+ heating everything up. I know > that I have to shield the thing, but I just haven't gotten to it yet. > When I took the cowling off, everything on the hot side was too hot to > touch, including the fuel lines. One nice touch, I have a small cooler > to cool the fuel as it returns to the regulator. It's mounted on the > engine mount about 3 inches from the unshielded 1000F can so it's doing > a great job _heating_ the fuel. The cooler was for the zero return line > fuel system I was thinking about. I'm not going to do that however. The > fuel will be returned to the tank. The exhaust also radiates heat into > the left radiator. > > As of now, I believe the cooling system is doing pretty good, but won't > be able to tell much more until I get the exhaust system shielded. > Bill Shertz' pipes straight out of the cowling looks kind of attractive > right now. :) > > Bob W. > > -- > http://www.bob-white.com > N93BD - Rotary Powered BD-4 (first engine start 1/7/06) > Custom Cables for your rotary installation - > http://www.roblinphoto.com/shop/ > -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > -- > Homepage: http://www.flyrotary.com/ > Archive and UnSub: http://mail.lancaironline.net/lists/flyrotary/ >