X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com Return-Path: Received: from imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net ([205.152.59.72] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 5.1c.1) with ESMTP id 1212461 for flyrotary@lancaironline.net; Thu, 29 Jun 2006 16:31:14 -0400 Received-SPF: pass receiver=logan.com; client-ip=205.152.59.72; envelope-from=atlasyts@bellsouth.net Received: from ibm68aec.bellsouth.net ([70.149.1.20]) by imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net with ESMTP id <20060629203029.CXMG18707.imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net@ibm68aec.bellsouth.net> for ; Thu, 29 Jun 2006 16:30:29 -0400 Received: from [192.168.0.244] (really [70.149.1.20]) by ibm68aec.bellsouth.net with ESMTP id <20060629203029.KWWO3755.ibm68aec.bellsouth.net@[192.168.0.244]> for ; Thu, 29 Jun 2006 16:30:29 -0400 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v752.2) In-Reply-To: References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Message-Id: <27DB4FC1-3C4D-47D0-A572-06C48F288717@bellsouth.net> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Bulent Aliev Subject: Re: [FlyRotary] Re: Difficult cold start Date: Thu, 29 Jun 2006 16:30:26 -0400 To: "Rotary motors in aircraft" X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.752.2) Steve, I have cut off switches on my pumps and I shut the engine by shutting the fuel pumps off. The strange thing is that once it sputters, I have to give it a boost with the cold start, or it will die again? Maybe I have to install the bypass fuel bleed circuit? all my injectors are uphill and any fuel leaking, will go in the engine. Buly On Jun 29, 2006, at 4:09 PM, Steve Brooks wrote: > Buly, > > I have the opposite problem. When hot,, mine start > somewhat hard. Especially if it has sat for a while > and has a good heat soak. I believe that my intake > gets hot, and is what causes my hard start when hot. > > On your problem, I used to have an issue with cold > start, before I added a cutoff switch for the primary > FI pump. I had trouble leaving pressure on the fuel > rail, because it seeped through the injectors and ran > out of the throttle body. Some ran into the engine > also, which caused it to be flooded. Wet plugs are > hard to get started. > > On shut down, I turn off the primary FI pump, and let > the engine die before cutting off the master switch. > No more problem with the flooding. Also, if I do > flood it (hot start), I shut off the fuel pumps, and > when the engine fires up, I flip the pump on and the > engine continues running. > > > FWIW, > Steve Brooks > > > If your problem is flooding, I can see why priming > doesn't help. > > --- Bulent Aliev wrote: > >> Today I did couple of fast taxis with my test pilot >> that flew the >> plane the first time with the turbo and fixed pitch >> prop. >> We had 500 pounds on the front seat and the plane >> lifted off the >> runway in less then 1500 ft. He said it is a great >> improvement from V. >> 1.0. That's the good part. Last few times I had >> trouble starting >> cold. If I give it a sniff of the starting fluid it >> will sputter and >> I have to turn on the Cold Start for a second or two >> to get it going. >> Before start I hit the primer 4-6 times, but it does >> not help. After >> it worms up, starts instantly. Anybody with ideas to >> improve the >> situation? Thanks. >> Buly >>