Return-Path: Received: from imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net ([205.152.59.73] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.1.3) with ESMTP id 2588327 for flyrotary@lancaironline.net; Sun, 21 Sep 2003 20:16:00 -0400 Received: from TOSHIBAjhr ([216.76.211.4]) by imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.05.27 201-253-122-126-127-20021220) with SMTP id <20030922001556.KEEW10992.imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net@TOSHIBAjhr> for ; Sun, 21 Sep 2003 20:15:56 -0400 From: "John Slade" To: "Rotary motors in aircraft" Subject: RE: [FlyRotary] Re: DIE Power Calculations Date: Sun, 21 Sep 2003 20:15:54 -0400 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0004_01C3807D.295BDF60" X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) In-Reply-To: Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0004_01C3807D.295BDF60 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Ed, You're DIE stuff has got me thinking. Scary isnt it. The plenum for my turbo intake is due to be welded up next week. We were going to use a 3 1/2 inch aluminum tube perpendicular to the runners, cut away to take the ends of the Lamar runners. As I understand it, the DIE requires a path from one rotor to the other. So, I'm now thinking that the back of the plenum should be curved the other way to provide that path, and the throttle body should perhaps go underneath. The runner length is fairly constrained at this point at about 23 inches. I'm not a "rhino 3D" expert, but perhaps the attached 2D drawing might help get across what I'm talking about. The circle indicates the throttle body underneath. Perhaps some internal baffling could be added to provide a curved path for the primaries. The dotted line shows this. Does this make any sense, and is it worth considering before I have them cut and weld? Input and suggestions would be appreciated. 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