X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com Return-Path: Received: from [65.54.250.82] (HELO hotmail.com) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 5.0.9) with ESMTP id 1090087 for flyrotary@lancaironline.net; Wed, 03 May 2006 09:58:18 -0400 Received-SPF: pass receiver=logan.com; client-ip=65.54.250.82; envelope-from=lors01@msn.com Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Wed, 3 May 2006 06:57:31 -0700 Message-ID: Received: from 4.171.129.95 by BAY115-DAV10.phx.gbl with DAV; Wed, 03 May 2006 13:57:29 +0000 X-Originating-IP: [4.171.129.95] X-Originating-Email: [lors01@msn.com] X-Sender: lors01@msn.com From: "Tracy Crook" To: "Rotary motors in aircraft" References: Subject: Re: [FlyRotary] Sport Aviation Recip vs Rotary Article Date: Wed, 3 May 2006 09:57:25 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_011A_01C66E97.FB159310" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: MSN 9 X-MimeOLE: Produced By MSN MimeOLE V9.20.0026.0800 Seal-Send-Time: Wed, 3 May 2006 09:57:25 -0400 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 03 May 2006 13:57:31.0824 (UTC) FILETIME=[85BA9300:01C66EB9] This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_011A_01C66E97.FB159310 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Haven't read the article yet but I agree with all your points Kelly. = I'll be interested to see the entire context of that quote. Wonder if = they would be critical of Burt Rutan if he said something like "Our = entire space program cost less than what NASA spent on an O-ring study" = (which would be a true statement, BTW). As I experiment more with engines and airplanes, I realize that there = are more factors in evaluating aircraft performance than I ever = suspected. I realize that they can't all be addressed in a short = magazine article but they should acknowledge this fact. =20 I also wonder if this is the article that they mentioned to Ed Anderson. = I think Ed offered some input and suggested they contact me if they = were interested in auto conversions that had flown over 300(?) hours or = so. Sounds like they didn't want any other input because they never = bothered to contact me. I also sent them an article about a year ago = but they had no interest in publishing it. =20 Tracy ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Kelly Troyer=20 To: Rotary motors in aircraft=20 Sent: Wednesday, May 03, 2006 2:39 AM Subject: [FlyRotary] Sport Aviation Recip vs Rotary Article Group, After reading the flight test article between two Lycoming and two = Powersport powered RV-8's one would be lead to believe that there is a great = disparity between the Lycoming and the Rotary in fuel consumption.........Someone = correct me if I=20 am wrong but it is my understanding that the so called single lever = engine control system of the Powersport engine lacks a pilot controlled leaning = system and runs the engine at a "one size fits all situations" air/fuel mixture which = those of us on this list know is neither optimized for best power nor leaning........ This situation would seem to call for educating some people with = some "Real World Information" about fuel consumption of the Rotary from those of = the group that are now flying with an EFI (Tracy's EC-2) that allows = full mixture control !! The question is can we at the grassroots level have our collective = voices heard and command a glossy and flashy seven page article to present our side = of the story (heck even a couple of pages) ? Tracy was mentioned in what = almost sounded like a slap as "Bragging his engine cost less than his = headset".......The problem with that is that it was true !! IMHO (Rant Over) -- Kelly Troyer=20 Dyke Delta/13B/RD1C/EC2=20 ------=_NextPart_000_011A_01C66E97.FB159310 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Haven't read the article yet but I agree with all your points = Kelly. =20 I'll be interested to see the entire context of that quote.  Wonder = if they=20 would be critical of Burt Rutan if he said something like  "Our = entire=20 space program cost less than what NASA spent on an O-ring = study"  (which would be a true statement, BTW).
 
As I experiment more with engines and airplanes, I realize that = there are=20 more factors in evaluating aircraft performance than I ever = suspected.  I=20 realize that they can't all be addressed in a short magazine article but = they=20 should acknowledge this fact.   
 
I also wonder if this is the article that they mentioned to Ed=20 Anderson.  I think Ed offered some input and suggested they contact = me if=20 they were interested in auto conversions that had flown over = 300(?) hours=20 or so.  Sounds like they didn't want any other input because they = never=20 bothered to contact me.  I also sent them an article about a year = ago but=20 they had no interest in publishing it. 
 
Tracy
 
----- Original Message -----
To: Rotary motors in = aircraft
Sent: Wednesday, May 03, 2006 = 2:39=20 AM
Subject: [FlyRotary] Sport = Aviation Recip=20 vs Rotary Article

Group,
    After reading the flight test article between = two=20 Lycoming and two Powersport
powered RV-8's one would be lead to believe that there is a great = disparity between
the Lycoming and the Rotary in fuel consumption.........Someone = correct=20 me if I
am wrong but it is my understanding that the so = called single lever=20 engine control
system of the Powersport engine lacks a pilot = controlled=20 leaning system and runs
the engine at a "one size fits all situations" air/fuel = mixture=20 which those of us on this
list know is neither optimized for best power nor = leaning........
 
   This situation would seem to call for=20 educating  some people with some "Real
World Information"  about fuel consumption of the = Rotary from=20 those of the group that are now flying with an EFI (Tracy's EC-2) that = allows=20 full mixture control !!
 
   The question is can we at the grassroots level have = our=20 collective voices heard
and command a glossy and flashy seven page article to present our = side of=20 the
story (heck even a couple of pages) ?  Tracy was mentioned = in what=20 almost
sounded like a slap as "Bragging his engine cost less than his=20 headset".......The
problem with that is that it was true !! IMHO
 
 (Rant Over)
--
Kelly Troyer
Dyke=20 Delta/13B/RD1C/EC2



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