X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com Return-Path: Received: from backend2.xplornet.com ([207.179.143.201] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 5.0.9) with ESMTPS id 1089746 for flyrotary@lancaironline.net; Tue, 02 May 2006 23:30:36 -0400 Received-SPF: neutral receiver=logan.com; client-ip=207.179.143.201; envelope-from=echolakeresort@telus.net Received: from echolake-cc8a26 (206-47-94-97.anikast.net [206.47.94.97]) (authenticated bits=0) by backend2.xplornet.com (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id k433TWUC013835 for ; Wed, 3 May 2006 00:29:37 -0300 MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: <44582396.000001.03196@ECHOLAKE-CC8A26> Date: Tue, 2 May 2006 20:29:26 -0700 (Pacific Daylight Time) Content-Type: Multipart/Alternative; boundary="------------Boundary-00=_217OQL80000000000000" X-Mailer: IncrediMail (4502089) From: "Echo Lake Fishing Resort (Georges Boucher)" References: To: "Rotary motors in aircraft" Subject: Re: [FlyRotary] Re: Was Oil Pressure and Now... X-FID: FLAVOR00-NONE-0000-0000-000000000000 X-Priority: 3 --------------Boundary-00=_217OQL80000000000000 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi! Tim =0D I said the same thing until I saw the video of me sleeping with & without the mask. Once you get the mask to fit you will feel 100% better in the morning.=0D Georges B=0D =0D -------Original Message-------=0D =0D From: Tim Andres=0D Date: 05/02/06 06:07:56=0D To: Rotary motors in aircraft=0D Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: Was Oil Pressure and Now...=0D =0D Wow! Thanks for the tip Joe=85I=92m supposed to have a sleep study done b= ut have been putting it off, partly because of money and mostly because I know I=92= m not wearing any mask to bed!=0D I=92ll just keep that to myself I think.=0D Tim Andres=0D =0D =0D =0D =0D From: Rotary motors in aircraft [mailto:flyrotary@lancaironline.net] On Behalf Of Joe Hull=0D Sent: Monday, May 01, 2006 7:44 PM=0D To: Rotary motors in aircraft=0D Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: Was Oil Pressure and Now...=0D =0D Thanx Rusty =96 I was gone for the weekend and away from email.=0D =0D As you said, I won=92t feel good about it until I know for sure what=92s = going on. When I got back in town my wife graciously let me kiss her and then leave again for the airport to work on my engine. I started at about 5PM = and at 7:30PM had it off the plane and in the back of my truck. Amazing. It took months to get it all situated in the plane with all the hoses and wi= res and in a matter of a couple of hours it all comes undone!=0D =0D I=92m going to go see Atkins tomorrow and watch while they dissect the en= gine. But, I also have another rotary I bought at a local junkyard a year or t= wo ago and I=92m slowly working on rebuilding that too. So, I=92ll get my re= build education at some point. But for this one, since I paid some substantial cash for that engine, I=92d like to at least get 100hrs out of it!=0D =0D Besides =96 I lost my medical temporarily. If any of you have gone to a =93sleep doctor=94 =96 you might want to conveniently forget that fact wh= en you go to get your FAA medical renewed. I made the mistake of noting that and wh= en asked about the outcome I said =93mild sleep apnea=94. Wrong thing to say= =2E=20 Apparently the FAA doesn=92t know the difference between mild sleep apnea= and narcolepsy. I spent all day today in a =93Maintenance of Wakefulness Tes= t=94.=20 Essentially I sat in a dark room all day and tried to stay awake. I was successful so next week I can get a letter from the doctor and get it to = the FAA and hopefully in 60 days or less I=92ll get my medical back L=0D =0D Thanx,=0D Joe Hull=0D Cozy Mk-IV #991 (In Phase1 Flight Test =96 10.9 hrs flown) =0D Redmond (Seattle), Washington=0D =0D =0D I dropped the pan today and there were a bunch of gold flakes in the pan. Not a huge amount overall but if I sloshed things into a corner it looked significant. So, pondering my next step. =0D =0D Hi Joe,=0D =0D Did you drain the oil before dropping the pan? I'm assuming the answer i= s yes. If so, then draining the oil didn't get the flakes out. If that's = the case, then they could have been in there since day one, and you have no w= ay of knowing. =0D =0D Did you get a chance to check the relief valve? If you pulled the pan, a= nd didn't unscrew that valve, your restraint is far greater than mine :-) =0D =0D As for what to do about the engine, it almost sounds like you're looking = for an excuse to go through the engine to make sure all is well. If that's th= e case, and that's what will make you comfortable, then that's what you nee= d to do. End of dilemma. See how easy that was :-)=0D =0D I would further suggest that you do it yourself, with a copy of Bruce's video, rather than letting Atkins do it. It's not hard to do, and you'll = be way more careful with it. You can also use the opportunity to install th= e Bruce/RWS seals. If you want a professional to go though it, then I'd recommend sending it to Bruce Turrentine. =0D =0D Cheers,=0D Rusty (26)=0D =0D =20 --------------Boundary-00=_217OQL80000000000000 Content-Type: Text/HTML; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hi! Tim
I said the same thing until I saw the video of me sleeping with= & without the mask. Once you get the mask to fit you will feel 100% = better in the morning.
Georges B
 
-------Original Message-------
 
Date: 05/02/06 06:= 07:56
Subject: [FlyRotar= y] Re: Was Oil Pressure and Now...
 

Wow! Thanks for the= tip Joe=85I=92m supposed to have a sleep study done but have been puttin= g it off, partly because of money and mostly because I know I=92m not wea= ring any mask to bed!

I=92ll just keep th= at to myself I think.

Tim Andres

 

From: Rotary motors in aircraft [mailto:flyrotary@lancaironline.net] On Behalf Of Joe Hull
Sent: Monday, May 01, 2006 7:44 PM
To: Rotary= motors in aircraft
Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: Was Oil Pressure and Now...

 

Thanx Rusty =96 I w= as gone for the weekend and away from email.

 

As you said, I won=92= t feel good about it until I know for sure what=92s going on.  When = I got back in town my wife graciously let me kiss her and then leave agai= n for the airport to work on my engine. I started at about 5PM and at 7:3= 0PM had it off the plane and in the back of my truck. Amazing.  It t= ook months to get it all situated in the plane with all the hoses and wir= es and in a matter of a couple of hours it all comes undone!

 

I=92m going to go s= ee Atkins tomorrow and watch while they dissect the engine.  But, I = also have another rotary I bought at a local junkyard a year or two ago a= nd I=92m slowly working on rebuilding that too. So, I=92ll get my rebuild= education at some point. But for this one, since I paid some substantial= cash for that engine, I=92d like to at least get 100hrs out of it!<= /O:P>

 

Besides =96 I lost = my medical temporarily.  If any of you have gone to a =93sleep docto= r=94 =96 you might want to conveniently forget that fact when you go to g= et your FAA medical renewed. I made the mistake of noting that and when a= sked about the outcome I said =93mild sleep apnea=94. Wrong thing to say.=   Apparently the FAA doesn=92t know the difference between mild slee= p apnea and narcolepsy.  I spent all day today in a =93Maintenance o= f Wakefulness Test=94.  Essentially I sat in a dark room all day and= tried to stay awake. I was successful so next week I can get a letter fr= om the doctor and get it to the FAA and hopefully in 60 days or less I=92= ll get my medical back L

 

Thanx,

Joe Hull=

Cozy Mk-IV #991 (In Phase1= Flight Test =96 10.9 hrs flown)

Redmond (Seattle), W= ashington

 

 

I dropped the pan t= oday and there were a bunch of gold flakes in the pan. Not a huge amount = overall but if I sloshed things into a corner it looked significant. So, = pondering my next step. =

 

Hi Joe,

 

Did you drain the oil b= efore dropping the pan?  I'm assuming the answer is yes.  If so= , then draining the oil didn't get the flakes out.  If that's t= he case, then they could have been in there since day one, and you have n= o way of knowing.  

 

Did you get a chance to= check the relief valve?  If you pulled the pan, and didn'= t unscrew that valve, your restraint is far greater than mine :-)&nb= sp;

 

As for what to do about= the engine, it almost sounds like you're looking for an excuse to go thr= ough the engine to make sure all is well. If that's the case, and that's = what will make you comfortable, then that's what you need to do.  En= d of dilemma.  See how easy that was :-)

 

I would further suggest= that you do it yourself, with a copy of Bruce's video, rather than letti= ng Atkins do it. It's not hard to do, and you'll be way more careful with= it.  You can also use the opportunity to install the Bruce/RWS= seals.  If you want a professional to go though it, then I'd r= ecommend sending it to Bruce Turrentine.    =

 

Cheers,

Rusty (26)

 

 
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