X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com Return-Path: Received: from rwcrmhc14.comcast.net ([204.127.192.84] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 5.0.9) with ESMTP id 1088582 for flyrotary@lancaironline.net; Tue, 02 May 2006 10:42:47 -0400 Received-SPF: none receiver=logan.com; client-ip=204.127.192.84; envelope-from=rlwhite@comcast.net Received: from Quail (c-68-35-160-229.hsd1.nm.comcast.net[68.35.160.229]) by comcast.net (rwcrmhc14) with SMTP id <20060502144201m1400rp5due>; Tue, 2 May 2006 14:42:02 +0000 Date: Tue, 2 May 2006 08:42:59 -0600 From: Bob White To: "Rotary motors in aircraft" Subject: Re: [FlyRotary] Re: Engine Run and Static RPM Report Message-Id: <20060502084259.f3d26a22.rlwhite@comcast.net> In-Reply-To: References: X-Mailer: Sylpheed version 2.2.4 (GTK+ 2.8.3; i686-pc-linux-gnu) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit On Tue, 02 May 2006 10:02:29 -0400 Ernest Christley wrote: > Joe Hull wrote: > > >I asked my DAR what would happen if I wanted to > >buy an old Long-EZ and restore it. He said I could do the work but I'd have > >to get an A&P to sign it off. So, you can still do the work but you have to > >find an A&P that is will to inspect your work and sign off in your Airplane > >Log. > > > > > This is somewhat of a gray area, isn't it? > > Suppose you buy pieces of an experimental to assist in the building of > yours. How many 'pieces' can you buy before you can't get the repairman > certificate? Not kit pieces from a professional manufacturer. That > will clearly break the rules. I'm talking pieces that another > experimenter has made. Does it matter if the pieces are from the same > or different projects? Consider that someone else can do everything, > except for the prop that you bolt on...you can still get the repairman > certificate. The rule is that it has to be constructed for recreation > or education (by you isn't in the language). > > If I were in that situation, I'd consider pulling the wings and anything > else pullable, take pictures of the pieces spread out, scrape the N > number off and apply for a new one. Call it an airplane I built. I > can't see where a single rule would be broken, in letter or spirit. > Yes, it can be a gray area. If the original project is in enough pieces and the data plate is gone, it can be done. I've heard that some FSDO's are more lax than others. Removing the data plate and making a new application would seem to break both the letter and spirit of the regulations, but without any first hand knowledge of such a thing, I have heard rumors of that being done. I believe that to get the repairman's certificate, you have to have done some of all the different types of work on that aircraft. You can't just bolt on the prop. :) If the FAA were interested, I could give them some suggestions on how to make the regulations more sensible, but so far no one has asked me. Bob W. -- http://www.bob-white.com N93BD - Rotary Powered BD-4 (first engine start 1/7/06) Custom Cables for your rotary installation - http://www.roblinphoto.com/shop/