X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com Return-Path: Received: from rwcrmhc13.comcast.net ([216.148.227.153] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 5.0.9) with ESMTP id 1085127 for flyrotary@lancaironline.net; Fri, 28 Apr 2006 23:13:13 -0400 Received-SPF: none receiver=logan.com; client-ip=216.148.227.153; envelope-from=rlwhite@comcast.net Received: from Quail (c-68-35-160-229.hsd1.nm.comcast.net[68.35.160.229]) by comcast.net (rwcrmhc13) with SMTP id <20060429031229m13000kh65e>; Sat, 29 Apr 2006 03:12:30 +0000 Date: Fri, 28 Apr 2006 21:13:25 -0600 From: Bob White To: "Rotary motors in aircraft" Subject: Re: Engine Run and Static RPM Report Message-Id: <20060428211325.4c951468.rlwhite@comcast.net> In-Reply-To: References: X-Mailer: Sylpheed version 2.2.4 (GTK+ 2.8.3; i686-pc-linux-gnu) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi Buly, There's a few things on the list he sent that doesn't sound quite right. As long as I can do it without too much of a hassle, I guess I will. The actual wording is "a ground run to max power in a nose high attitude approaching an in flight stall". That sounds like an invitation to do an inadvertent take-off if I ever heard one. When I flew with the previous owner, the time from full power application to lift off was about 5 seconds. I think the A&P may be a problem also. I need one because I didn't build the airplane. He sounded OK when I first talked to him, but more recently he's been talking about checking to make sure the plane was built to plans and stuff. I think he's supposed to check the brakes, make sure the flaps aren't falling off, etc. I think his implication is that the original builder could modify anything he wanted to, but that I can't. This view seems to me to go beyond the roll of the A&P as I understand it. I may have to find another one that understands experimentals. Bob W. On Fri, 28 Apr 2006 22:35:30 -0400 Bulent Aliev wrote: > Hi Bob, looks like you are making lots of power. My DAR never asked > for high speed taxi, or even if I have run the engine. I don't think > high speed taxi is a requirement. > Buly > On Apr 28, 2006, at 9:24 PM, Bob White wrote: > > > I've been trying to finish up all the little nitpicking details and a > > few big details so I haven't ran my engine for quite a while. I made > > up my mind to get some time on it today. The weather was a bit nasty > > today with the winds kicking up to 20-30 kts (it wasn't that bad > > when I > > started). I fired it up, and the first problem showed up - No > > charging. The new alternator mount from Pineapple racing is power > > coated and insulating the alternator from the block. I rigged up a > > jumper to fix that problem, and started the engine again. All was > > well. After taxiing around for 1/2 hour or so, I hit 4 hours run > > time. Bruce T.'s break in instructions was to run the engine 5 hours > > below 4500, but I couldn't stand the suspense any longer. I really > > wanted to find out what my static RPM was. So, I stopped it heading > > into the wind and gave it full throttle. I saw 6400 RPM and backed > > off. > > The mixture was going a little lean, so I turned up the mixture and > > got > > 6600 RPM. Max manifold pressure was a little over 23. (Don't forget > > that I'm at 6000 ft.) That's a little over the 6000 RPM limit > > Bruce has > > for the 5 to 15 hour segment, but his regime seems quite a bit more > > conservative that some of the other break-in schemes I've heard on > > here. :) With this prop, I suspect I could exceed my RPM redline of > > 7500. If everything is looking OK, I may increase that to 7700. > > > > It seems like I'm a little under propped. This prop is 68 in. dia, > > with > > a 78 in. pitch. > > > > I also found out that a little air flowing over the rads is a good > > thing. As I mentioned earlier, the wind was kicking up to about 30 > > knots toward the end. While taxiing downwind, the water temp started > > climbing above 200 F. I shut the engine down, got out and pushed the > > plane around into the wind. After starting the engine back up, the > > temps dropped down to 160F. > > > > Now the next big question is how badly will my new cowling and cooling > > plenum screw up the cooling. I'm only about 1/2 done with the cowling > > mods and getting ready to jump back into some more fiberglass work. > > Apparently according to the checklist my DAR sent, I need to do a high > > speed taxi test. I'm not going to do that until I think the plane is > > airworthy, even if I don't have the paperwork!! > > > > Bob W. > > > > -- > > http://www.bob-white.com > > N93BD - Rotary Powered BD-4 (first engine start 1/7/06) > > Custom Cables for your rotary installation - > > http://www.roblinphoto.com/shop/ > > > > -- > > Homepage: http://www.flyrotary.com/ > > Archive and UnSub: http://mail.lancaironline.net/lists/flyrotary/ > > > -- > Homepage: http://www.flyrotary.com/ > Archive and UnSub: http://mail.lancaironline.net/lists/flyrotary/ -- http://www.bob-white.com N93BD - Rotary Powered BD-4 (first engine start 1/7/06) Custom Cables for your rotary installation - http://www.roblinphoto.com/shop/