X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com Return-Path: Received: from email6.peakpeak.com ([207.189.223.49] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 5.0.9) with ESMTPS id 1063236 for flyrotary@lancaironline.net; Sun, 09 Apr 2006 14:28:51 -0400 Received-SPF: none receiver=logan.com; client-ip=207.189.223.49; envelope-from=billdube@killacycle.com Received: (qmail 7380 invoked by uid 513); 9 Apr 2006 18:27:15 -0000 Received: from 71.212.196.104 by email6 (envelope-from , uid 504) with qmail-scanner-1.23 ( Clear:RC:0(71.212.196.104):. Processed in 0.430761 secs); 09 Apr 2006 18:27:15 -0000 Received: from 71-212-196-104.hlrn.qwest.net (HELO tigger.killacycle.com) (external_relay_billdube@[71.212.196.104]) (envelope-sender ) by email6.peakpeak.com (qmail-ldap-1.03) with SMTP for ; 9 Apr 2006 18:27:15 -0000 Message-Id: <7.0.1.0.0.20060409112327.038f3150@killacycle.com> X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 7.0.1.0 Date: Sun, 09 Apr 2006 12:23:03 -0600 To: "Rotary motors in aircraft" From: "BillDube@killacycle.com" Subject: Re: [FlyRotary] Re: State-of-the-art airplane battery In-Reply-To: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed At 09:28 AM 4/9/2006, you wrote: >Bill, > >you say 10 years - how are you so sure it will hold? These batteries are not as heat sensitive as lead acid or other battery technologies. If they don't work for ten years, you get that fraction of your money back. These are really high quality state-of-the-art batteries. I came out with LED position lights before anyone else did. They work great, pass FAA specs, and are less expensive, (still,) than anyone else's. I plan to the same sort of thing with batteries. Other folks will be selling batteries like these later, but, if enough folks are interested, you will be able to get them from me first, for less than others will charge later. In about a month or so I'll "let the cat out of the bag" and reveal the manufacturer and the details. For now, I'm just trying to figure out if it is worth my time to develop a product. Bill Dube' >I am living in a hot/humid country - I need a new car battery every 2 years, >like clockwork - sealed/no-maintenance battery. >In the "old world" (Central-Europe) a regular car battery would last at >least 4-5 years (no I have no comparrison, as back then ALL batteries where >"maintenance" batteries - however keeping the liquid level with distilled >water was all that was needed) >I just changed the bat again - from first sign (slight hesitation at start) >to "death" was 2 days... >At a rate of 40.- per battery I probably keep changing them, but I guess for >"weight-fanatics" it seems a cheap way to loose some. >I am just a bit sceptic on the 10 years. >Someonoe asked already - what's the tech behind this? In laymans terms >please :)) > >Great website!! > >Thomas J. > > >----- Original Message ----- >From: "BillDube@killacycle.com" >To: "Rotary motors in aircraft" >Sent: Saturday, April 08, 2006 10:47 PM >Subject: [FlyRotary] State-of-the-art airplane battery > > > > I know this is a bit off topic, but we rotor heads like to try the > > latest and greatest stuff. > > > > I am considering producing state-of-the art, very lightweight, ultra > > long life, starting batteries for experimental aircraft. They won't > > be cheap to make, however. I'd like to get some feedback as to the > > market for these before I put a big effort into this. > > > > Here are the specs: > > > > 14 volts > > 480 cranking amps > > 8.8 amp-hours > > 2.7 pounds (Yes, that is right.) > > 10 year warrantee (prorated) > > Completely sealed battery > > Safer than lead acid or NiCad > > Built-in electronic monitoring system warns of over-voltage, > > under-voltage, over heating, or internal battery fault. > > > > That is all the good news. The downside is that they will cost about > > $475. I'm not sure how many folks would want a 10 year battery (at > > least) that weighs about 1/3 as much as an "ordinary" battery, but > > costs four times as much. > > > > The specs above are real. I have personally tested these batteries > > and they do, indeed, perform this well, so that is not an issue. I > > know I can make these. I'm going to make one for myself. The question > > is, will folks buy them if I produce them? > > > > Let me know if you think you would be interested in such a high-tech > > battery at this cost. > > > > Bill Dube' > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > Homepage: http://www.flyrotary.com/ > > Archive and UnSub: http://mail.lancaironline.net/lists/flyrotary/ > > >-- >Homepage: http://www.flyrotary.com/ >Archive and UnSub: http://mail.lancaironline.net/lists/flyrotary/