X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com Return-Path: Received: from [216.211.128.10] (HELO mail-in02.adhost.com) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 5.0.9) with ESMTP id 1062340 for flyrotary@lancaironline.net; Sat, 08 Apr 2006 11:05:35 -0400 Received-SPF: none receiver=logan.com; client-ip=216.211.128.10; envelope-from=joeh@pilgrimtech.com Received: from Pilgrim10 (c-67-183-14-47.hsd1.wa.comcast.net [67.183.14.47]) by mail-in02.adhost.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6700C2CED5B for ; Sat, 8 Apr 2006 08:04:45 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from joeh@pilgrimtech.com) From: "Joe Hull" To: "'Rotary motors in aircraft'" Subject: RE: [FlyRotary] Re: Radio Saga Beginning Date: Sat, 8 Apr 2006 08:04:39 -0700 Message-ID: <003301c65b1d$c889a180$bb02a8c0@redmond.corp.microsoft.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0034_01C65AE3.1C2AC980" X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 In-Reply-To: X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2670 Thread-Index: AcZbA8OF2jTSFVjLQ4u4fOnxMe1PoQAGLgIA This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0034_01C65AE3.1C2AC980 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I hear you on the coffee!! (Although I'm a Tea man myself). That's my suspicion - that there is something on either the PTT ground run or on the Mic run. However, remember it is only when the engine is running - and also remember that in a Cozy that bad boy is 8 feet from the instrument panel. So, since it's only there when the mic is keyed it has to be something that gets energized on the PTT ground wire or on Mic cable only when the engine is going. Unfortunately no oscilloscope - wouldn't know what to do with it if I had one! My usual instruments for testing electrical things is a wet finger and a pair of ear plugs - it hurts my ears when I find a live wire, hence the ear plugs. :-) Joe Hull Cozy Mk-IV #991 (Done Building! In Phase1 Flight Test - 0 hrs flown) Redmond (Seattle), Washington _____ From: Rotary motors in aircraft [mailto:flyrotary@lancaironline.net] On Behalf Of Joe Berki Sent: Saturday, April 08, 2006 4:57 AM To: Rotary motors in aircraft Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: Radio Saga Beginning Joe, Disreguard the previous message. I need coffee. Look at how the mike cable is grounded. You may have a ground loop in that circuit. The shield should be grounded at one point. There might be noise on the ptt line also. Do you have an oscilliscope? Joe Berki Limo EZ ----- Original Message ----- From: Bulent Aliev To: Rotary motors in aircraft Sent: Saturday, April 08, 2006 1:20 AM Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: Radio Saga Beginning Beats me Joe? I was also like a babe in the woods with my radio, until I installed a new Icom and small and simple intercom. Now is perfect. RST is on my desk ready for Ebay. My fuel pumps used to make lots of noise also? Buly On Apr 8, 2006, at 12:11 AM, Joe Hull wrote: Hey Buly (and anyone else) I've got an RST intercom and an ICOM radio (don't remember the number but only 1 year old). When the engine is off I can hear and Xmit fine. Turn the engine on and I can still hear fine (i.e. no noise) but when I key the mic there is a ton of noise in my headset and in the broadcast. It's not high pitched just a mid-range noise. I ruled out the alternator by taking the belt off - noise was still there. So why noise only when I transmit? Any thoughts? Joe Hull Cozy Mk-IV #991 (Done Building! In Phase1 Flight Test - 0 hrs flown) Redmond (Seattle), Washington ------=_NextPart_000_0034_01C65AE3.1C2AC980 Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

I hear you on the coffee!!  = (Although I’m a Tea man myself).

That’s my suspicion – = that there is something on either the PTT ground run or on the Mic run.  = However, remember it is only when the engine is running – and also remember = that in a Cozy that bad boy is 8 feet from the instrument panel.  So, = since it’s only there when the mic is keyed it has to be something that gets = energized on the PTT ground wire or on Mic cable only when the engine is going. =

 

Unfortunately no oscilloscope = – wouldn’t know what to do with it if I had one!  My usual = instruments for testing electrical things is a wet finger and a pair of ear plugs = – it hurts my ears when I find a live wire, hence the ear plugs. = J =

Joe Hull

Cozy Mk-IV #991 (Done Building! In Phase1 Flight Test - 0 hrs flown) =

Redmond (Seattle), Washington

 


From: = Rotary motors in aircraft [mailto:flyrotary@lancaironline.net] On Behalf Of Joe Berki
Sent: Saturday, April 08, = 2006 4:57 AM
To: Rotary motors in = aircraft
Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: = Radio Saga Beginning

 

Joe,

    Disreguard the previous = message.  I need coffee.  Look at how the mike cable is grounded.  You may = have a ground loop in that circuit.  The shield should be grounded at one point.  There might be noise on the ptt line also.  Do you = have an oscilliscope?

 

Joe Berki

Limo EZ

----- Original Message ----- =

From: Bulent Aliev

Sent: = Saturday, April 08, 2006 1:20 AM

Subject: = [FlyRotary] Re: Radio Saga Beginning

 

Beats me Joe? I was also like a babe in the woods with my radio, until I = installed a new Icom and  small and simple intercom. Now is perfect. RST is on my = desk ready for Ebay.

My fuel = pumps used to make lots of noise also?

Buly



 

On Apr 8, 2006, at 12:11 AM, Joe Hull = wrote:



Hey = Buly (and anyone else)

I’ve got = an RST intercom and an ICOM radio (don’t remember the number but only 1 = year old).  When the engine is off I can hear and Xmit fine. Turn the = engine on and I can still hear fine (i.e. no noise) but when I key the mic there = is a ton of noise in my headset and in the broadcast. It’s not high pitched = just a mid-range noise.

I ruled out the alternator by taking the belt off – noise was still there.

So why noise only when I transmit? Any thoughts?

Joe Hull

Cozy Mk-IV #991 (Done Building! In Phase1 Flight Test - 0 hrs flown)

Redmond (Seattle), Washington



 

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