Mailing List flyrotary@lancaironline.net Message #30793
From: Tracy Crook <lors01@msn.com>
Subject: Re: [FlyRotary] Re: NACA's, Cooling and Sport Aviation Mag..
Date: Fri, 17 Mar 2006 14:00:10 -0500
To: Rotary motors in aircraft <flyrotary@lancaironline.net>
Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: NACA's, Cooling and Sport Aviation Mag..

 

Yes, it tells you the pressure above the cooling fins of the engine (almost full dynamic pressure).  Yes I am making the assumption that the pressure below the engine (other side of the cooling fins) is the same as the backside of the radiator.  Is that not reasonable?   The cooling exit is the same in both examples.    Note that the pressure above the engine was almost full dynamic pressure WITHOUT the exit being blocked.  Therefore my conclusion that the pressure differential is NOT lower on the aircooled engine.

 

Am I missing your point Al?

 

Tracy

I guess my point was that there isn’t enough information to draw the conclusion.  But if the exits are the same, and the pressure in front of the radiator is the same as that above the cooling fins; then the pressure drops should be about the same.  But of course it varies from one installation to another, rad thickness, fin density, etc.

 

In any case; I agree with your premise – I have seen no data that definitively supports the conclusion of lower pressure drop for cooling the air cooled engine.  Should one also infer then, that the flow rate required is also about the same – that the higher fin temp does not give a higher delta T to the cooling air?

 

Al

 

A :  Yes, I do believe that the higher fin temps do not result in higher delta T to cooling air (supported by some exit air temp readings on Lyc. installations)  The reason is that there are fewer 'collisions' between each air molecule and fins than with fins in a rad (especially a thick one).  The average air velocity is higher in the Lyc than a rad.  If you slowed the air in the Lyc to the same speed as in a rad, it would not cool the engine for two reasons.  Not enough turbulence (required for good heat transfer) and not enough CFM even if there were enough turbulence. 

 

You have probably noticed the fins on the really high performance radial engine heads from WWII era.  They have an incredible fin density (similar to a radiator).  In the case of the cylinder barrel fin assemblies (a separate part that is clamped to the cylinders) they look VERY similar to radiator fins, including turbulators between the fins which accomplish the same thing as the louvers in radiator fins.   These air cooled engines probably DID have higher delta T temps than our liquid cooled roraries.  If you just scaled up a Lycoming O - 360 cylinder assembly and tried to get the HP/CI that the super charged radials  did, they would burn up in very short order.

 

Tracy

 

 

 

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