X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com Return-Path: Received: from wproxy.gmail.com ([64.233.184.194] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 5.0.8) with ESMTP id 1036553 for flyrotary@lancaironline.net; Thu, 16 Mar 2006 17:41:16 -0500 Received-SPF: pass receiver=logan.com; client-ip=64.233.184.194; envelope-from=russell.duffy@gmail.com Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 69so419880wra for ; Thu, 16 Mar 2006 14:40:32 -0800 (PST) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:from:to:subject:date:message-id:mime-version:content-type:x-priority:x-msmail-priority:x-mailer:x-mimeole:importance:in-reply-to; b=UjQUDoPb5jd73fnU9fqTKSqTH6ORJ2faaWPjV5mXeBN+NEc2IRkOZ/OXIH8nHSQgae4+JcxpK9GHttk8Ht1tA8Js/nM0b8O33oS/Iab1CfPvZP/mhbIYvVnsUur2GENWbOtYn+sO9FsBnbdCoyo+QFKvNd0YHgFCuWaG6LXOaqA= Received: by 10.54.113.16 with SMTP id l16mr712716wrc; Thu, 16 Mar 2006 14:40:32 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from rd ( [65.6.194.9]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id g7sm342471wra.2006.03.16.14.40.31; Thu, 16 Mar 2006 14:40:31 -0800 (PST) From: "Russell Duffy" To: "'Rotary motors in aircraft'" Subject: RE: [FlyRotary] Re: installed cost of rotary Date: Thu, 16 Mar 2006 16:40:28 -0600 Message-ID: <00e601c6494a$a1f17000$6101a8c0@rd> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_00E7_01C64918.57570000" X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.6626 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2670 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_00E7_01C64918.57570000 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable and from what I've read on this list, you seemed to have more dollars=20 to spend on it than cents 8*). =20 Hey, I resemble that comment :-) I thought your numbers would be on the high end of the spectrum. Also true. For the low cost end, I guess we could ask someone else. = Where is Finn anyway :-) =20 With the Lycoming your total comes to 25,900 up to the prop. Does your estimated figure for the rotary include the prop? Yes. I included the prop in every figure I gave. If you want to = exclude the entire prop from the above figure, make it $24,600, because the FWF = kit is only $3k for the fixed pitch version. No reason to count the prop governor if you don't count the prop. =20 I'd like to exclude that, because it varies so wildly and doesn't differ in fuction between the engine types. I included it in my RV-8 numbers because I insist on having a CS prop = for this plane. This probably does sway the balance toward the Lycoming a = bit, since the primary CS prop for a rotary is the $10k MT electric prop. = Prop and governor for the Lyclone is "only" about $7k. =20 BTW, I'm not sure I'm going to let Bob get away with saying that- "It = isn't uncommon for the Lycomings to need a top after a few hundred hours.". = If the engine is broken in properly, and wasn't a run out pile of junk to = begin with (insert favorite Lycoming joke here ), this will not be the = case. =20 Cheers, Rusty (front baggage compartment being assembled) =20 ------=_NextPart_000_00E7_01C64918.57570000 Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message

and from what I've read on this list, you seemed to = have more=20 dollars 
to spend on it than cents 8*). 

Hey, I resemble that comment = :-)

I thought your numbers would be on the
high end of = the=20 spectrum.

Also=20 true.  For the low cost end, I guess we could ask someone = else. =20 Where is Finn anyway :-) 

With the Lycoming your total comes to 25,900 up to the prop.  = Does=20 your
estimated figure for the rotary include the prop?

Yes.  I included the = prop in every=20 figure I gave.  If you want to exclude the entire prop from = the above=20 figure, make it $24,600, because the FWF kit is only $3k for the fixed = pitch=20 version.  No reason to count the prop governor if you don't count = the=20 prop. 

  I'd like to exclude
that, because it varies so wildly and = doesn't=20 differ in fuction between
the engine types.

I included it in my RV-8 = numbers=20 because I insist on having a CS prop for this plane.  This probably = does=20 sway the balance toward the Lycoming a bit, since the primary CS prop = for a=20 rotary is the $10k MT electric prop.  Prop and governor for the = Lyclone is=20 "only" about $7k. 

BTW, I'm not sure I'm = going to let Bob=20 get away with saying that- "It isn't uncommon for the Lycomings to need = a top=20 after a few hundred hours.".  If the engine is broken in = properly, and=20 wasn't a run out pile of junk to begin with (insert favorite Lycoming = joke here=20 <g>), this will not be the case. 

Cheers,
Rusty (front baggage = compartment=20 being assembled)

 

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