X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com Return-Path: Received: from zproxy.gmail.com ([64.233.162.198] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 5.0.8) with ESMTP id 1036119 for flyrotary@lancaironline.net; Thu, 16 Mar 2006 10:41:23 -0500 Received-SPF: pass receiver=logan.com; client-ip=64.233.162.198; envelope-from=barrygardner@gmail.com Received: by zproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id l1so408330nzf for ; Thu, 16 Mar 2006 07:40:38 -0800 (PST) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:from:to:references:subject:date:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:x-priority:x-msmail-priority:x-mailer:x-mimeole; b=KNalLnAy0wLwlGq7vJL5kJnQjn1sr+142WVRR4Im1sxk9rELft2kJaFTtbkAN3dgvchFMY/sg4mKGkDehuYfhYnytDZ4zV1C3TccOXOaDobC8MNnYYQ8sEdj0vom/3HehBHUNAKnP5/2RTT/kdulqOkIN3lgUNyUpysUOtwQ2Zg= Received: by 10.65.133.4 with SMTP id k4mr1189384qbn; Thu, 16 Mar 2006 07:40:38 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from dellc400 ( [75.4.73.65]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id q17sm13485qbq.2006.03.16.07.40.37; Thu, 16 Mar 2006 07:40:37 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <010301c6490f$f443a9d0$6401a8c0@dellc400> From: "Barry Gardner" To: "Rotary motors in aircraft" References: Subject: Re: [FlyRotary] Re: installed cost of rotary Date: Thu, 16 Mar 2006 09:40:15 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=response Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2670 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2670 Ernest, It's a great question. However, make sure that you're comparing apples to apples. The computation is harder, unfortunately, than just figuring out labor at shop rates. Contary to rumor, there is some labor time involved in installing Lycomings. And some additional costs You've still got to buy a mount. Lycomings sometimes come with or without all the accessories, which then may be purchased separately. Fabricate some cowling baffles for your updraft or downdraft cooling system. Put on an Ellison fuel injector system? Add that in. Emag or Pmag? Same thing. And add in the time to install and get them right. I'm building a pusher and Cozy builders always have to buy a prop extension of 6" to 8," which costs about another $1000. One day when I entertained unhappy thoughts about all the problems of rotary installations, I worked on the Lycoming side of the equation and was surprised to figure out all other other stuff I still had to do if I gave into the dark side like...you know who. (Hi, Rusty!) Just do a good job of comparison if you get some numbers. Barry Gardner Wheaton, IL ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ernest Christley" To: "Rotary motors in aircraft" Sent: Thursday, March 16, 2006 8:21 AM Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: Very close to being totally unrelated... > Russell Duffy wrote: > >> In just as unrelated news, I wrote the final check for my Lyclone engine >> for the RV-8. It's being test run this week, and will ship next week. >> The total... ONLY $21,600 :-) > > > Rusty, John Dyke keeps telling us builders that a rotary installation will > cost more than a Lycoming. You're the only person I know that has written > checks for both in such a short time, and recently. So all told, how > would you compare the cost? How about if you had to figure in your time > at shop rates? > > -- > ,|"|"|, Ernest Christley | > ----===<{{(oQo)}}>===---- Dyke Delta Builder | > o| d |o www.ernest.isa-geek.org | > > -- > Homepage: http://www.flyrotary.com/ > Archive and UnSub: http://mail.lancaironline.net/lists/flyrotary/