X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com Return-Path: Received: from [201.225.225.167] (HELO cwpanama.net) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 5.0.8) with ESMTP id 1033104 for flyrotary@lancaironline.net; Mon, 13 Mar 2006 20:44:07 -0500 Received-SPF: none receiver=logan.com; client-ip=201.225.225.167; envelope-from=rijakits@cwpanama.net Received: from [201.224.93.110] (HELO usuarioq3efog0) by frontend1.cwpanama.net (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.2.10) with SMTP id 62256545 for flyrotary@lancaironline.net; Mon, 13 Mar 2006 20:52:36 -0500 Message-ID: <001101c64708$ac027330$6e5de0c9@usuarioq3efog0> From: "rijakits" To: "Rotary motors in aircraft" References: Subject: Re: [FlyRotary] Re: finding a radiator Date: Mon, 13 Mar 2006 20:43:19 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1437 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1441 If I got the idea right, to use the Streamline you would want to sketch the "perfect" streamline for your radiator and then measure FROM the radiator towards the intake - whatever length you can do, and cut it there. That will be your intake area..... Wedge should be simple: Whatever your opening is - constant cross-area to the radiator - as big a radius at the bottom near end as you can justify - same point top surface, start a tapper to the end of the radiator to end about 1/2" above the far end and radius it down. Which one is better? No idea! Generally I would guess streamline, but in your case it will not be perfect, so you might want to do some mockup from plywood/cardboard/etc. and try some watermanometer tests/kitchenscale on the rooftop on top of your car - tests..... Thomas J. PS: PL over at the "other" site was lofting both systems together, looks good but results are anyones guess.... ----- Original Message ----- From: "the mallorys" To: "Rotary motors in aircraft" Sent: Monday, March 13, 2006 10:25 AM Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: finding a radiator > Dennis, > > You seem to be at the same point in installation as I. I'm putting the > Renesis in an RV-8 using the James cowl. I'm trying to fit the radiator > verticaly under the engine mount. That gives me space of about 8 1/2 by 19 > 1/2. Make the radiator 3.75 to 4 inches thick, and I should have enough > cooling. Since I don't have about 50 inches in front of the radiator for > the perfect streamlined diffuser, the question for me is which will be less > drag, a shorter (about 20 inches) streamline, or tipping the radiator at an > angle and using a wedge shape diffuser? In any case, I plan on having an > exit duct also with a controllable exit. > > Does anyone know the answer? > > Chris > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Ernest Christley" > To: "Rotary motors in aircraft" > Sent: Sunday, March 12, 2006 10:37 PM > Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: finding a radiator > > > > Dennis Haverlah wrote: > > > >> My question is - will the air make the 75 degree turn and flow through > >> the fins? If not - would turning vanes below the radiator make this > >> configuration possible? > > > > Dennis, a section in K&W book discusses this very issue. The short answer > > is "Yes". The long answer is that you have to be very careful how you > > design the duct face in front of the radiator. If you have their book, > > it's figure 12-12 on page 277. > > > > -- > > This is by far the hardest lesson about freedom. It goes against > > instinct, and morality, to just sit back and watch people make > > mistakes. We want to help them, which means control them and their > > decisions, but in doing so we actually hurt them (and ourselves)." > > > > > > -- > > Homepage: http://www.flyrotary.com/ > > Archive and UnSub: http://mail.lancaironline.net/lists/flyrotary/ > > > -- > Homepage: http://www.flyrotary.com/ > Archive and UnSub: http://mail.lancaironline.net/lists/flyrotary/