Mailing List flyrotary@lancaironline.net Message #30633
From: john slade <sladerj@bellsouth.net>
Subject: Re: [FlyRotary] Re: NACA's, Cooling and Sport Aviation Mag..
Date: Fri, 10 Mar 2006 14:50:55 -0500
To: Rotary motors in aircraft <flyrotary@lancaironline.net>
This would be Eric Westland. He did some oil trail tests and ended up
with much improved cooling using vortex generators 1" * 4" vortex
generators at 45 degrees to the airstream ahead of the NACA (or whatever
you want to call the plans Cozy scoop). The results are up on a web site
somewhere.

Based on his results I installed the same generators from day one. I
have no measurements with them not in place.
John Slade




aheaJames wrote:

I read an article (don't remember where) about a fellow who placed two
vortex generator tabs just in front of the NACA ducts.  This improved
efficiency quite a lot.  He had to experiment a while to get it right;
but, liked the results.  I think it was on a Velocity or Cozy.

This makes perfect sense.  As I remember when I read the initial NACA
report.  The paper indicated that the duct was efficient for large
volume flows which created little back pressure.
Thus, my analysis of the operation is that the  efficiency of the duct
depends on a bit of local turbulence at the duct to break the local
boundary layer.   A high flow rate, as the original paper indicated
and/or required, would do that.  Also a set of vortex generators in
front of the duct would also do the same.

Second point:  I believe that a reversed direction NACA scoop would
make an excellent low drag exit port for the cooling air stream.   Such a scoop design would tend to form a small low- drag partial
vacuum at that point, allowing the exit scoop to literally help suck
the air out.  This would improve cooling efficiency I.E. NACA in, and
ACAN out.
I hold several patents, but I am not going to pursue this idea on that
basis.  I think it has a good possibility of being a very efficient
low drag cooling system.

If anyone tries it, please let us know your findings.

Best Regards;

James Freeman



David Staten wrote:

I skimmed it.. Chris and I are actually considering armpit scoops for
cooling, but we still have this nagging urge to minimize deviations
from plans. I will go back and do more than just skim..

All I saw was NACA's, Cooling and immediately thought of PL..

Dave

Bulent Aliev wrote:

You are right Bill. David did not read the whole article. Or he didn't want to hear it? :)
Buly



On Mar 9, 2006, at 8:58 PM, Bill Dube wrote:

I read that article as well. I had the same skepticism about the NACA intake for cooling. My understanding is that with an NACA inlet, you don't get the ram pressure you need to force air
through  a high fin-count radiator. Am I wrong about this?

Bill Dube'

David Staten wrote:

At the risk of invoking PL's name, anyone else read this months Sport Aviation mag from EAA, and notice an article on cooling
that  seems to indicate that NACA's are acceptable and adequate
for  aircraft cooling needs? I have no idea regarding the authors credentials, and I no longer monitor PL's "newsletter".. I was curious more than anything else... Pauls reaction, others reactions, etc.

Translation.. yes.. I'm stirring the pot/Trolling... I figure if we are using NACA's on the Velocity, that makes us somewhat of a NACA supporter..

Dave

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