X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com Return-Path: Received: from mail16.syd.optusnet.com.au ([211.29.132.197] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 5.0.8) with ESMTPS id 987853 for flyrotary@lancaironline.net; Thu, 16 Feb 2006 16:51:42 -0500 Received-SPF: none receiver=logan.com; client-ip=211.29.132.197; envelope-from=lendich@optusnet.com.au Received: from george (d220-236-1-103.dsl.nsw.optusnet.com.au [220.236.1.103]) by mail16.syd.optusnet.com.au (8.12.11/8.12.11) with SMTP id k1GLolUt031586 for ; Fri, 17 Feb 2006 08:50:51 +1100 Message-ID: <005901c63343$0f7e7910$6701ecdc@george> From: "george lendich" To: "Rotary motors in aircraft" References: Subject: Re: [FlyRotary] Re: Bernie wants to bat for the other team... Date: Fri, 17 Feb 2006 07:50:52 +1000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0056_01C63396.E029E1F0" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0056_01C63396.E029E1F0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable For every problem there IS a solution! Nicely put, Dave. I had a similar problem some years ago.=20 I found it easier to keep the plane as it was and change wives = instead.=20 John -----Original Message----- From: Rotary motors in aircraft = [mailto:flyrotary@lancaironline.net]On Behalf Of David Leonard Sent: Thursday, February 16, 2006 11:10 AM To: Rotary motors in aircraft Subject: [FlyRotary] Bernie wants to bat for the other team... Burnie, I have been meaning to comment on your planned conversion to 1940's = technology - because my wife really wants me to do the same thing. She also REALLY insisted we get our seats done from the guy in the = hangar across the way because he gave a really good pitch and she bought = it - and because he charged $2200 to do the upholstery on just the seats = - so it must be good. (Turns out that I spent about $1300 too much on = that deal)=20 She also REALLY wanted me to buy an engine from this guy Neal Scherm = because he gave a really good pitch. But it turns out I waisted about = $5,000 on a junk (rusted solid) engine and nearly had a broken = alternator mount (causing water pump and then engine failure) because I = trusted the stuff he sold me. But it cost a lot so it must have been = the best choice...=20 She just also talked me into a $10k paint job when I know I can get = the same thing for $6k. She want me to now buy a "new" engine for $5k when I know I can = rebuild it to speck for $1k. She also, like most women, LOVES diamonds.... because.... they = cost a lot! (if they were cheap, you couldn't give em for valentine's = day) :-) She says she hates flying in my plane because of the rotary engine, = and wouldn't be afraid of a lycoming. But I know that she does anything = she can to avoid flying in lycoming powered planes as well. She wants = me to trade in the tail dragger for a tri-gear because some stranger at = work told her that tri-gear is safer.=20 Yet even when we get on a commercial air liner she can hardly stand = the take off and landing because she is so afraid. However, I know that if I put a lyc in my plane now she would STILL = be reticent to fly with me. I love aviation, and she does not. Changing = to a lyc is not going to change that for us. Like you, I want to have her along with me on trips and enjoy this = traveling machine that I have build. But despite what she says, I know = the best way to do that is: 1) fly a lot of hours without a major issue, = 2) make it quieter and smoother, 3) Make the plane look a lot better - = to include paint, nice interior, non-wood appearing prop, no exposed = wires, etc...=20 The engine issue will work itself out, and at this point (believe it = or not), I feel that I am less likely to have issues with continuing my = rotary setup than if I were to start all over with a lyc set up. =20 I also know that I am building this plane for my own satisfaction. = If all I wanted to do was go on trips I would have bought a plane of = some sort. The satisfaction factor goes way down with a lyc. There is = nothing like going to a fly-in and despite the fact that my plane was = unkempt and unpainted, it got 10x the attention of the beautifully done = RV's right next to it. Someday, it will be beautiful and have a rotary. = And someday I will have bragging rights about performance that no stock = lyc powered RV can touch.=20 In time, my engine problems will be written off as growing pains for = a new installation, and my wife will either be proud to fly in my plane, = or it wasn't going to happen behind any engine. Your wife may be different of course. --=20 Dave Leonard Turbo Rotary RV-6 N4VY http://members.aol.com/_ht_a/rotaryroster/index.html=20 http://members.aol.com/_ht_a/vp4skydoc/index.html ------=_NextPart_000_0056_01C63396.E029E1F0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
For every problem there IS a=20 solution!
Nicely put, Dave.
I=20 had a similar problem some years ago.
I=20 found it easier to keep the plane as it was and change wives instead. =
John
 
-----Original Message-----
From: Rotary motors in = aircraft=20 [mailto:flyrotary@lancaironline.net]On Behalf Of David=20 Leonard
Sent: Thursday, February 16, 2006 11:10 = AM
To:=20 Rotary motors in aircraft
Subject: [FlyRotary] Bernie = wants to bat=20 for the other team...

Burnie,
 
I have been meaning to comment on your planned conversion to = 1940's=20 technology - because my wife really wants me to do the same = thing.
 
She also REALLY insisted we get our seats done from the guy in = the=20 hangar across the way because he gave a really good pitch and she = bought it=20 - and because he charged $2200 to do the upholstery on just the = seats - so=20 it must be good.  (Turns out that I spent about $1300 too much = on that=20 deal)
 
She also REALLY wanted me to buy an engine from this guy Neal = Scherm=20 because he gave a really good pitch.  But it turns out I = waisted about=20 $5,000 on a junk (rusted solid) engine and nearly had a broken=20 alternator mount (causing water pump and then engine failure) = because I=20 trusted the stuff he sold me.  But it cost a lot so it must = have been=20 the best choice...
 
She just also talked me into a $10k paint job when I know I can = get the=20 same thing for $6k.
 
She want me to now buy a "new" engine for $5k when I know I can = rebuild=20 it to speck for $1k.
 
She also, like most women, LOVES diamonds....  = because.... =20 they cost a lot!    (if they were cheap, you couldn't = give em=20 for valentine's day) :-)
 
She says she hates flying in my plane because of the rotary = engine, and=20 wouldn't be afraid of a lycoming.  But I know that she does = anything=20 she can to avoid flying in lycoming powered planes as well.  = She wants=20 me to trade in the tail dragger for a tri-gear because some stranger = at work=20 told her that tri-gear is safer.
 
Yet even when we get on a commercial air liner she can hardly = stand the=20 take off and landing because she is so afraid.
 
However, I know that if I put a lyc in my plane now she would = STILL be=20 reticent to fly with me. I love aviation, and she does not.  = Changing=20 to a lyc is not going to change that for us.
 
Like you, I want to have her along with me on trips and enjoy = this=20 traveling machine that I have build.  But despite what she = says, I know=20 the best way to do that is: 1) fly a lot of hours without a major = issue, 2)=20 make it quieter and smoother, 3) Make the plane look a lot better - = to=20 include paint, nice interior, non-wood appearing prop, no exposed = wires,=20 etc...
 
The engine issue will work itself out, and at this point = (believe it or=20 not), I feel that I am less likely to have issues with continuing my = rotary=20 setup than if I were to start all over with a lyc set up.  =
 
I also know that I am building this plane for my own=20 satisfaction.  If all I wanted to do was go on trips I would = have=20 bought a plane of some sort.  The satisfaction factor goes way = down=20 with a lyc.  There is nothing like going to a fly-in and = despite the=20 fact that my plane was unkempt and unpainted, it got 10x the = attention of=20 the beautifully done RV's right next to it.  Someday, it will = be=20 beautiful and have a rotary.  And someday I will have bragging = rights=20 about performance that no stock lyc powered RV can touch.
 
In time, my engine problems will be written off as growing = pains for a=20 new installation, and my wife will either be proud to fly in my = plane, or it=20 wasn't going to happen behind any engine.
 
Your wife may be different of course.

-- =
Dave=20 Leonard
Turbo Rotary RV-6 N4VY
http://memb= ers.aol.com/_ht_a/rotaryroster/index.html=20
http://members= .aol.com/_ht_a/vp4skydoc/index.html=20
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