X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com Return-Path: Received: from xproxy.gmail.com ([66.249.82.206] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 5.0.8) with ESMTP id 987491 for flyrotary@lancaironline.net; Thu, 16 Feb 2006 12:03:41 -0500 Received-SPF: pass receiver=logan.com; client-ip=66.249.82.206; envelope-from=barrygardner@gmail.com Received: by xproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id s8so155681wxc for ; Thu, 16 Feb 2006 09:02:56 -0800 (PST) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:user-agent:x-accept-language:mime-version:to:subject:references:in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=W/T9Y0qJm/rG4yLzXPg6vNUzTZsNR0p63C2dkP/sIEbbR/ocIsEKo1DdHjqlDbw9boSRCbq4PdDNzVQTc+mLHWiUiX/Zl/6c2CLmzlejmGrvqRtrbRj61Ge10u5DUNhOMWJo/zrW0J6bgWEsLS7IIaz5bLdp2gBKi4VE038Dt2A= Received: by 10.70.15.5 with SMTP id 5mr1258122wxo; Thu, 16 Feb 2006 09:02:55 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from ?192.168.1.103? ( [68.255.28.45]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id h9sm1058592wxd.2006.02.16.09.02.54; Thu, 16 Feb 2006 09:02:55 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <43F4B031.5060003@gmail.com> Date: Thu, 16 Feb 2006 11:02:41 -0600 From: Barry Gardner User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0.6 (Windows/20050716) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Rotary motors in aircraft Subject: Re: [FlyRotary] Re: Radio noise saga References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Bill and other knowledgable folks, Is there any value in running a braided shielding inside the conduit that will carry the power leads? I'm building a plane like Buly's and want to know if that's something I should just build into my electrical raceway. Thanks. Barry Gardner Wheaton, IL Bill Dube wrote: > The separated power leads radiate noise quite well. They are a giant > loop antenna that is transmitting any ripple on the current to the > battery. Alternator whine, motor whine, ingnition system input ripple > all will radiate from such a loop. > > This is a very common problem on homebuilt electric vehciles. With the > large battery pack, folks often fine it convienient to run the power > leads up one side of the car and back on the other. The hash from the > motor controller and/or the charger make it impossible to use anything > electronic inside the car if you wire it that way. Sometimes, the > motor controller throttle input will pick up the output hash from such > a loop and make the car undrivable. > > Always run power leads as a pair. Keep the "presented area" low to > reduce the transmitted noise. > > You have found the problem. > > >> >> Twisted pair only reduces noise in signals transmitted THROUGH the >> wire, and it only works if the receiver uses a differential signal. >> It doesn't help with power wires. The curious can drop by: >> >> http://www.duxcw.com/digest/Howto/network/cable/cable4.htm >> >> It's a fairly good, brief description of what goes on. You'll usually >> only find twisted pair in LAN cabling. >> >> Regards, >> Chad >> >> -- >> Homepage: http://www.flyrotary.com/ >> Archive and UnSub: http://mail.lancaironline.net/lists/flyrotary/ >> > > -- > Homepage: http://www.flyrotary.com/ > Archive and UnSub: http://mail.lancaironline.net/lists/flyrotary/ >