X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com Return-Path: Received: from inca.al.noaa.gov ([140.172.240.8] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 5.0.8) with ESMTPS id 987446 for flyrotary@lancaironline.net; Thu, 16 Feb 2006 11:41:27 -0500 Received-SPF: none receiver=logan.com; client-ip=140.172.240.8; envelope-from=william.p.dube@noaa.gov Received: from [140.172.241.126] (mungo.al.noaa.gov [140.172.241.126]) by inca.al.noaa.gov (8.13.5/8.13.5) with ESMTP id k1GGefj6026566 for ; Thu, 16 Feb 2006 09:40:41 -0700 (MST) Message-ID: <43F4AA1C.30701@noaa.gov> Date: Thu, 16 Feb 2006 09:36:44 -0700 From: Bill Dube Reply-To: william.p.dube@noaa.gov Organization: NOAA Aeronomy Lab User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0.2 (Windows/20050317) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Rotary motors in aircraft Subject: Re: [FlyRotary] Re: Radio noise saga References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit The separated power leads radiate noise quite well. They are a giant loop antenna that is transmitting any ripple on the current to the battery. Alternator whine, motor whine, ingnition system input ripple all will radiate from such a loop. This is a very common problem on homebuilt electric vehciles. With the large battery pack, folks often fine it convienient to run the power leads up one side of the car and back on the other. The hash from the motor controller and/or the charger make it impossible to use anything electronic inside the car if you wire it that way. Sometimes, the motor controller throttle input will pick up the output hash from such a loop and make the car undrivable. Always run power leads as a pair. Keep the "presented area" low to reduce the transmitted noise. You have found the problem. > > Twisted pair only reduces noise in signals transmitted THROUGH the > wire, and it only works if the receiver uses a differential signal. It > doesn't help with power wires. The curious can drop by: > > http://www.duxcw.com/digest/Howto/network/cable/cable4.htm > > It's a fairly good, brief description of what goes on. You'll usually > only find twisted pair in LAN cabling. > > Regards, > Chad > > -- > Homepage: http://www.flyrotary.com/ > Archive and UnSub: http://mail.lancaironline.net/lists/flyrotary/ >