X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com Return-Path: Received: from zproxy.gmail.com ([64.233.162.195] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 5.0.8) with ESMTP id 987399 for flyrotary@lancaironline.net; Thu, 16 Feb 2006 11:10:48 -0500 Received-SPF: pass receiver=logan.com; client-ip=64.233.162.195; envelope-from=wdleonard@gmail.com Received: by zproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id i1so206238nzh for ; Thu, 16 Feb 2006 08:10:04 -0800 (PST) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:mime-version:content-type; b=UpVbAcQUJOL3rB96dfJmiZVsIASQWfZ/OOqVOzMlN9CUXtskmDzQgKn4eErwZeMyFlhbur3R2Tn5/N1pn8bOpj6dHYwCxAQfAdtu6OMg8eKmW71ekOrJUbsYH33bKWR8MDCFK/XuJRgQTZ8ZNuHsv1Y5X6aXweVcka4/SCtcc5A= Received: by 10.65.20.8 with SMTP id x8mr300560qbi; Thu, 16 Feb 2006 08:10:01 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.65.192.3 with HTTP; Thu, 16 Feb 2006 08:10:01 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <1c23473f0602160810scb03568m8cfe162035427516@mail.gmail.com> Date: Thu, 16 Feb 2006 08:10:01 -0800 From: David Leonard To: Rotary motors in aircraft Subject: Bernie wants to bat for the other team... MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_9952_25598181.1140106201627" ------=_Part_9952_25598181.1140106201627 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline Burnie, I have been meaning to comment on your planned conversion to 1940's technology - because my wife really wants me to do the same thing. She also REALLY insisted we get our seats done from the guy in the hangar across the way because he gave a really good pitch and she bought it - and because he charged $2200 to do the upholstery on just the seats - so it mus= t be good. (Turns out that I spent about $1300 too much on that deal) She also REALLY wanted me to buy an engine from this guy Neal Scherm becaus= e he gave a really good pitch. But it turns out I waisted about $5,000 on a junk (rusted solid) engine and nearly had a broken alternator mount (causin= g water pump and then engine failure) because I trusted the stuff he sold me. But it cost a lot so it must have been the best choice... She just also talked me into a $10k paint job when I know I can get the sam= e thing for $6k. She want me to now buy a "new" engine for $5k when I know I can rebuild it to speck for $1k. She also, like most women, LOVES diamonds.... because.... they cost a lot! (if they were cheap, you couldn't give em for valentine's day) :-) She says she hates flying in my plane because of the rotary engine, and wouldn't be afraid of a lycoming. But I know that she does anything she ca= n to avoid flying in lycoming powered planes as well. She wants me to trade in the tail dragger for a tri-gear because some stranger at work told her that tri-gear is safer. Yet even when we get on a commercial air liner she can hardly stand the tak= e off and landing because she is so afraid. However, I know that if I put a lyc in my plane now she would STILL be reticent to fly with me. I love aviation, and she does not. Changing to a lyc is not going to change that for us. Like you, I want to have her along with me on trips and enjoy this travelin= g machine that I have build. But despite what she says, I know the best way to do that is: 1) fly a lot of hours without a major issue, 2) make it quieter and smoother, 3) Make the plane look a lot better - to include paint, nice interior, non-wood appearing prop, no exposed wires, etc... The engine issue will work itself out, and at this point (believe it or not), I feel that I am less likely to have issues with continuing my rotary setup than if I were to start all over with a lyc set up. I also know that I am building this plane for my own satisfaction. If all = I wanted to do was go on trips I would have bought a plane of some sort. The satisfaction factor goes way down with a lyc. There is nothing like going to a fly-in and despite the fact that my plane was unkempt and unpainted, i= t got 10x the attention of the beautifully done RV's right next to it. Someday, it will be beautiful and have a rotary. And someday I will have bragging rights about performance that no stock lyc powered RV can touch. In time, my engine problems will be written off as growing pains for a new installation, and my wife will either be proud to fly in my plane, or it wasn't going to happen behind any engine. Your wife may be different of course. -- Dave Leonard Turbo Rotary RV-6 N4VY http://members.aol.com/_ht_a/rotaryroster/index.html http://members.aol.com/_ht_a/vp4skydoc/index.html ------=_Part_9952_25598181.1140106201627 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline
Burnie,
 
I have been meaning to comment on your planned conversion to 1940's te= chnology - because my wife really wants me to do the same thing.
 
She also REALLY insisted we get our seats done from the guy in the han= gar across the way because he gave a really good pitch and she bought it - = and because he charged $2200 to do the upholstery on just the seats - so it= must be good.  (Turns out that I spent about $1300 too much on that d= eal)
 
She also REALLY wanted me to buy an engine from this guy Neal Scherm b= ecause he gave a really good pitch.  But it turns out I waisted about = $5,000 on a junk (rusted solid) engine and nearly had a broken alterna= tor mount (causing water pump and then engine failure) because I trusted th= e stuff he sold me.  But it cost a lot so it must have been the best c= hoice...
 
She just also talked me into a $10k paint job when I know I can get th= e same thing for $6k.
 
She want me to now buy a "new" engine for $5k when I know I = can rebuild it to speck for $1k.
 
She also, like most women, LOVES diamonds....  because....  = they cost a lot!    (if they were cheap, you couldn't give e= m for valentine's day) :-)
 
She says she hates flying in my plane because of the rotary engine, an= d wouldn't be afraid of a lycoming.  But I know that she does anything= she can to avoid flying in lycoming powered planes as well.  She want= s me to trade in the tail dragger for a tri-gear because some stranger at w= ork told her that tri-gear is safer.
 
Yet even when we get on a commercial air liner she can hardly stand th= e take off and landing because she is so afraid.
 
However, I know that if I put a lyc in my plane now she would STILL be= reticent to fly with me. I love aviation, and she does not.  Changing= to a lyc is not going to change that for us.
 
Like you, I want to have her along with me on trips and enjoy this tra= veling machine that I have build.  But despite what she says, I know t= he best way to do that is: 1) fly a lot of hours without a major issue, 2) = make it quieter and smoother, 3) Make the plane look a lot better - to incl= ude paint, nice interior, non-wood appearing prop, no exposed wires, etc...
 
The engine issue will work itself out, and at this point (believe it o= r not), I feel that I am less likely to have issues with continuing my rota= ry setup than if I were to start all over with a lyc set up. 
 
I also know that I am building this plane for my own satisfaction.&nbs= p; If all I wanted to do was go on trips I would have bought a plane of som= e sort.  The satisfaction factor goes way down with a lyc.  There= is nothing like going to a fly-in and despite the fact that my plane was u= nkempt and unpainted, it got 10x the attention of the beautifully done RV's= right next to it.  Someday, it will be beautiful and have a rotary.&n= bsp; And someday I will have bragging rights about performance that no stoc= k lyc powered RV can touch.
 
In time, my engine problems will be written off as growing pains for a= new installation, and my wife will either be proud to fly in my plane, or = it wasn't going to happen behind any engine.
 
Your wife may be different of course.

--
Dave= Leonard
Turbo Rotary RV-6 N4VY
http://members.aol.com/_ht_a/rotaryroster/index= .html
http:= //members.aol.com/_ht_a/vp4skydoc/index.html
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