Mailing List flyrotary@lancaironline.net Message #29940
From: Al Gietzen <ALVentures@cox.net>
Subject: Atkins errors
Date: Sat, 4 Feb 2006 14:55:22 -0800
To: Rotary motors in aircraft <flyrotary@lancaironline.net>

Once again I was at a loss for the appropriate expression (@#$%^&%$#$%) after finding that the two larger diameter through-bolts (tension bolt? whatever) on my 20B had not ever been torqued.  I had mentioned a while back that when running my engine on the plane I had noted a small coolant leak coming from a through-bolt at the bottom of the rear housing.  With the rear engine mount plate and re-drive mounted it was not possible to get a wrench on it.

 

I was about to begin the process of removing the re-drive, etc. to replace the seal, when, for whatever reason I grabbed a couple of wrenches to put on the larger bolt at the top just to check what size it was (21mm).  As I was fitting the wrench onto the head I thought I saw the bolt move.  No way.  I flipped the wrnech over and put the box end on the bolt – THE BOLT WAS LOOSE!  It took at least a full turn to get to a torque of 25 -30 ft-lbs.  I checked the 17mm bolts – they were fine.  After removing the starter and a couple of the re-drive plate spacer blocks, I was able to check the other bolts.  The bottom 21mm bolt that was leaking was also loose.  It took more than half a turn to get it tight.

 

Best I can guess is that all the smaller bolts were torqued, but whoever did the job, forgot to tighten the 2 21mm bolts.  It is just unbelievable to me that an “expert” building up an engine for an aircraft could make these errors.

 

I was upset by failed attempts by Atkins on custom exhaust and intakes, but I rationalized that at least on the engine block he really knew what he was doing.  But later found at least four major errors;

 

  1. Installing 9.0 compression rotors in a NA engine instead of 9.7, and then arguing that the lower compression was better.  I agree that at high rpm, 6500+, it won’t make any difference; but Mazda test data suggests about a 4% penalty at my cruise range of 5000 – 5400 rpm.
  2. A custom longer oil pickup tube for my deeper pan which was; a) too long to fit in the pan (which he had in his shop), and b) leaked air around the flange weld so the oil pump would suck air bubbles.
  3. A front e-shaft pulley with timing marks that bore no relation to the timing pointer.  I guess the because of a stock 20B pulley and a 12A front cover.  This took some hours to resolve during the dyno testing.
  4. And now the two tension bolts that had never been tightened.

 

I can only hope there will be no further “discoveries”.  The last time I talked to David (months ago) he mentioned that he was no longer providing engines for aircraft.  Good idea – just too late.  He did my engine about 4 years ago.

 

A couple of questions: Why are two of the bolts larger?  What is the torque spec on these bolts for the 20B?  I seem to recall 26-28 ft-lbs.  I can’t get a torque wrench on the bolts without removing the re-drive, engine mount and flywheel, but I have a pretty well calibrated arm.

 

Al

 

 

 

 

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