X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com Return-Path: Received: from rtp-iport-2.cisco.com ([64.102.122.149] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 5.0.7) with ESMTP id 966530 for flyrotary@lancaironline.net; Fri, 03 Feb 2006 16:35:38 -0500 Received-SPF: softfail receiver=logan.com; client-ip=64.102.122.149; envelope-from=echristley@nc.rr.com Received: from rtp-core-2.cisco.com ([64.102.124.13]) by rtp-iport-2.cisco.com with ESMTP; 03 Feb 2006 16:33:49 -0500 X-IronPort-AV: i="4.02,85,1139202000"; d="scan'208"; a="81677162:sNHT31027604" Received: from xbh-rtp-201.amer.cisco.com (xbh-rtp-201.cisco.com [64.102.31.12]) by rtp-core-2.cisco.com (8.12.10/8.12.6) with ESMTP id k13LXk6H020455 for ; Fri, 3 Feb 2006 16:33:47 -0500 (EST) Received: from xfe-rtp-202.amer.cisco.com ([64.102.31.21]) by xbh-rtp-201.amer.cisco.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.211); Fri, 3 Feb 2006 16:33:31 -0500 Received: from [64.102.38.73] ([64.102.38.73]) by xfe-rtp-202.amer.cisco.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.211); Fri, 3 Feb 2006 16:33:31 -0500 Message-ID: <43E3CC2B.3000202@nc.rr.com> Date: Fri, 03 Feb 2006 16:33:31 -0500 From: Ernest Christley Reply-To: echristley@nc.rr.com User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0.2 (X11/20050317) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Rotary motors in aircraft Subject: Re: [FlyRotary] Re: What about an air-cooled rotary? References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-OriginalArrivalTime: 03 Feb 2006 21:33:31.0493 (UTC) FILETIME=[7A990150:01C62909] Russell Duffy wrote: > Check out the dimesional drawings. Is that big round disk on the output > shaft a blower? I'd hate to think that he might have somehow procured a > patent on that particular idea. > > > Looks like an enclosure for a flywheel. Note the starter poking into > it from the engine side. > > Just can't wait for that flying car to get finished. I imagine > they're still trying to get the MTBF (Mean Time Between FATALITY) up > to double digit minutes :-) > What is that hose looking thing coming off and around the engine? Forced cooling for an alternator? I can wait. Moller's whole concept is idiotic from the drawing-board, as is the Marine's newest money pit. It grates my last nerve that everyone doesn't see how foolish the concept is from basic principles of common sense. It's a completely "fail-disastrous" design, in that if you lose an engine there is no way to have a controlled decent. Helicopters have autorotation, planes have glide ratio, balloons tend to deflate slowly and don't depend on a complicated machine that's trying to throw itself apart in the first place. Anything designed to fly by balancing a load between running engines is criminal foolishness. An engine gives out (high likelyhood), what'r ya' gonna do now? ... DIE!! The Marines are doubly guilty. The operational profile for the Osprey is to insert and remove troops in close quarters with the enemy. One bullet to one engine and it's game over. Please excuse my rant. Do not archive. Off-topic. (Probably) complete bull$n17 -- ,|"|"|, Ernest Christley | ----===<{{(oQo)}}>===---- Dyke Delta Builder | o| d |o www.ernest.isa-geek.org |