X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com Return-Path: Received: from fed1rmmtao04.cox.net ([68.230.241.35] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 5.0.7) with ESMTP id 960504 for flyrotary@lancaironline.net; Mon, 30 Jan 2006 08:30:14 -0500 Received-SPF: none receiver=logan.com; client-ip=68.230.241.35; envelope-from=dale.r@cox.net Received: from [192.168.1.100] (really [68.2.139.17]) by fed1rmmtao04.cox.net (InterMail vM.6.01.05.02 201-2131-123-102-20050715) with ESMTP id <20060130132647.ZVFH17690.fed1rmmtao04.cox.net@[192.168.1.100]> for ; Mon, 30 Jan 2006 08:26:47 -0500 Message-ID: <43DE1495.2090301@cox.net> Date: Mon, 30 Jan 2006 06:28:53 -0700 From: Dale Rogers User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0.6 (Windows/20050716) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Rotary motors in aircraft Subject: Re: [FlyRotary] R References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Bulent Aliev wrote:

From the Canard builders list. Makes also engine room monitoring camera.

And from the COZY_builder's list - a request for info. I don't think Don
has found this list yet, so replies should go direct to his email address.
(Yes I sent him the website address.) Also enclosed is my first reply to
him.

>> From: Don Solomon <triptrish@durango.net>

Mailed-By: mailman.qth.net

>> To: Bulent Aliev <atlasyts@bellsouth.net>, Cozy Builders Mailing List <cozy_builders@mailman.qth.net>

>> Date: Jan 29, 2006 4:42 PM

>> Subject: COZY: Question about a 13B

>> I have a lead on a 1987 13B engine with 137,000 miles on it. The price is so
>> good I can hardly pass on it.
>> What kind of things should I look for, or ask about to see if it will work
>> for me?
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Don Solomon
>> Cozy #1169
>> Durango, CO (DRO)
>> http://www.maddyhome.com/canardpages/pages/triptrish/index.html

> From: Dale Rogers <dale.rog@gmail.com>

Mailed-By: mailman.qth.net

> To: Don Solomon <triptrish@durango.net>

> Cc: Cozy Builders Mailing List <cozy_builders@mailman.qth.net>

> Date: Jan 29, 2006 7:51 PM

> Subject: Re: COZY: Question about a 13B

>
> Don,

> You would probably get more useful responses on the FlyRotary list
> < flyrotary@lancaironline.net >. Here's what little I know, at this point
> in my build:
>
> If possible, see if it will start. Be careful, you don't want to run it
> very long until you've assured yourself that the coolant has been
> purged of air. That's the big risk with buying a used engine - if the car
> has been in a wreck and the cooling system breached while the engine
> was running, damage may already be done.
>
> The engine should be very smooth above 1200 rpm.
>
> Get a dynamic compression check (takes a special tool that only
> experienced Mazda mech's will have.) If you can't get that, turn the
> engine over by hand (CLOCKWISE! Turning it backwards does bad
> things to apex seals - especially if they are well-worn.) You're
> listening for a distinct "WUFF" as each apex seal uncovers an exhaust
> port. You should hear two for each full turn of the eccentric (crank)
> shaft - it will take three turns to cycle all six faces. The "WUFFs"
> should all have the same intensity.
>
> If it runs smoothly, or at least has even compression, you probably
> have a rebuildable core. At 137K miles, that's about the best you can
> expect. The parts for the rebuild will run less than $1000.
>
> If the engine is already out of the car, be certain you get everything.
> There should be two pairs of injectors - primary and secondary. If they
> aren't there, it could cost you as much as the rest of the engine to
> replace them. Fuel rails also aren't inexpensive.
>
> If you're _really_ lucky, the engine came from a car with an
> automatic transmission. If you're using a reduction drive, you'll need
> the AT flexplate and it's counterweight for a connection.
>
> Dale R.