X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com Return-Path: Received: from SMTP02.INFOAVE.NET ([165.166.0.27] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 5.0.7f) with ESMTP id 940709 for flyrotary@lancaironline.net; Sat, 21 Jan 2006 20:43:35 -0500 Received-SPF: none receiver=logan.com; client-ip=165.166.0.27; envelope-from=Jewen@Comporium.net Received: from engineer1 ([206.74.87.108]) by SMTP00.InfoAve.Net (PMDF V6.2-X31 #31155) with SMTP id <01LY1GLOQ7S890PQWF@SMTP00.InfoAve.Net> for flyrotary@lancaironline.net; Sat, 21 Jan 2006 20:33:48 -0500 (EST) Date: Sat, 21 Jan 2006 20:32:47 -0500 From: Joe Ewen Subject: Re: [FlyRotary] Re: Auto fuel To: Rotary motors in aircraft Message-id: <000b01c61ef3$c0f4c230$6505a8c0@engineer1> MIME-version: 1.0 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1441 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1437 Content-type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0008_01C61EC9.D7E64510" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-priority: Normal References: This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0008_01C61EC9.D7E64510 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Another epoxy to consider is Jeffco 9700. This is the fuel tank coating = reccomended by Velocity. The Jeffco is designed as a fuel tank coating = and does not require post cure heating as the Pro-Set combination = requires. According to the Pro-Set web site the 145 / 226 combination = requires post cure heating; " Post-cure heat -- 110=B0F to 180=B0F = (43=B0C to 82=B0C) will accelerate the cure and improve the physical = properties of the cured epoxy, and is required with 145 Resin mixtures = to reach an acceptable degree of cure. =20 Joe ----- Original Message -----=20 From: al p wick=20 To: Rotary motors in aircraft=20 Sent: Saturday, January 21, 2006 8:43 AM Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: Auto fuel Way to be thorough Wendell! I encourage the mason jar test too, just = to make sure. -al wick Artificial intelligence in cockpit, Cozy IV powered by stock Subaru = 2.5 N9032U 200+ hours on engine/airframe from Portland, Oregon Prop construct, Subaru install, Risk assessment, Glass panel design = info: http://www.maddyhome.com/canardpages/pages/alwick/index.html On Fri, 20 Jan 2006 11:21:40 -0600 "Wendell Voto" = writes: I'm building with epoxy and was using West Systems because the boat = people recommend it for fuel tanks. Out of curiosity, I e-mailed West = Systems questioning the use of their epoxy with fuel with alcohol. They = did not e-mail back but quickly phoned to tell me that it would not hold = up to alcohol and suggested using Pro-Set 145 resin with Pro-Set 226 = hardener. I used this as a coating on the Cozy tanks and also to bond = the top skins onto the tanks. Wendell ----- Original Message -----=20 From: William=20 To: Rotary motors in aircraft=20 Sent: Wednesday, January 18, 2006 10:29 AM Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: Auto fuel Al, Your statement below could lead some to think that by adding more = hardner to an epoxy mix that you could make it more resistant to fuel. I = don't think that is what you meant, you might want to clarify it *and* = provide the name/model of the epoxy that you tested. Bill Schertz KIS Cruiser # 4045 -al wick Artificial intelligence in cockpit, Cozy IV powered by stock Subaru = 2.5 N9032U 200+ hours on engine/airframe from Portland, Oregon Prop construct, Subaru install, Risk assessment, Glass panel design = info: http://www.maddyhome.com/canardpages/pages/alwick/index.html ------=_NextPart_000_0008_01C61EC9.D7E64510 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Another epoxy to consider is Jeffco = 9700. =20 This is the fuel tank coating reccomended by Velocity.  The Jeffco = is=20 designed as a fuel tank coating and does not require post cure heating = as the=20 Pro-Set combination requires.  According to the Pro-Set web site = the 145 /=20 226 combination requires post cure heating; " Post-cure heat -- 110=B0F to 180=B0F (43=B0C to 82=B0C) will = accelerate the cure=20 and improve the physical properties of the cured epoxy, and is = required=20 with 145 Resin mixtures to reach an acceptable degree of cure. =20
 
Joe
 
 
----- Original Message -----
From:=20 al p = wick
Sent: Saturday, January 21, = 2006 8:43=20 AM
Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: Auto = fuel

Way to be thorough Wendell! I encourage the mason jar test too, = just to=20 make sure.
 

-al wick
Artificial intelligence in cockpit, Cozy IV = powered by=20 stock Subaru 2.5
N9032U 200+ hours on engine/airframe from = Portland,=20 Oregon
Prop construct, Subaru install, Risk assessment, Glass panel = design=20 info:
htt= p://www.maddyhome.com/canardpages/pages/alwick/index.html
 
On Fri, 20 Jan 2006 11:21:40 -0600 "Wendell Voto" <jwvoto@itlnet.net> = writes:
I'm building with epoxy and was using = West Systems=20 because the boat people recommend it for fuel tanks. Out of = curiosity, I=20 e-mailed West Systems questioning the use of their epoxy with fuel = with=20 alcohol.  They did not e-mail back but quickly phoned to tell = me that=20 it would not hold up to alcohol and suggested using = Pro-Set 145 resin with Pro-Set 226=20 hardener. I used this as a coating on the Cozy tanks and = also to=20 bond the top skins onto the tanks.
 
Wendell
----- Original Message ----- =
From:=20 William
To: Rotary motors in = aircraft=20
Sent: Wednesday, January = 18, 2006=20 10:29 AM
Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: = Auto=20 fuel

Al,
Your statement below could lead = some to think=20 that by adding more hardner to an epoxy mix that you could make it = more=20 resistant to fuel. I don't think that is what you meant, you might = want to=20 clarify it *and* provide the name/model of the epoxy that you=20 tested.
 
Bill Schertz
KIS Cruiser # 4045
 
 

-al wick
Artificial = intelligence in=20 cockpit, Cozy IV powered by stock Subaru 2.5
N9032U 200+ hours on=20 engine/airframe from Portland, Oregon
Prop construct, Subaru = install, Risk=20 assessment, Glass panel design=20 = info:
http://www.maddyhome.com/canardpages/pages/alwick/index.html
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