X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com Return-Path: Received: from web81009.mail.mud.yahoo.com ([68.142.199.89] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 5.0.6) with SMTP id 934158 for flyrotary@lancaironline.net; Fri, 20 Jan 2006 08:54:26 -0500 Received-SPF: none receiver=logan.com; client-ip=68.142.199.89; envelope-from=deltaflyer@prodigy.net Received: (qmail 79439 invoked by uid 60001); 20 Jan 2006 13:53:40 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=prodigy.net; h=Message-ID:Received:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=pJn86udENE9HRkDo89zUmlAlJ4p4UaVEsY5A7HT0Ib4xtQQTSc77TwJkMllWUsSxwGTwu8aPXSVpUeoQiVujOcjK/l8HIjCWtKy2sgsRkvCSTWaWM0bgOxgmXSTYYjacTyShB7ePBX1+Ck1sgpB930b67hbRBWgVsvmMybioSM4= ; Message-ID: <20060120135340.79437.qmail@web81009.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Received: from [199.231.49.128] by web81009.mail.mud.yahoo.com via HTTP; Fri, 20 Jan 2006 05:53:40 PST Date: Fri, 20 Jan 2006 05:53:40 -0800 (PST) From: James Maher Subject: Re: [FlyRotary] Attn Jim Maher: Re: [FlyRotary] Re: Max static with an IVO? To: Rotary motors in aircraft In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0-1488186913-1137765220=:77159" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit --0-1488186913-1137765220=:77159 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Dave, The meter just reads the relative current flow while the motor is engaged. It is not exactly a linear reading but it increases from just a few amps in the center of the travel to about 10 amps towards the ends of travel. Much better than waiting for the breaker to pop. It will not indicate prop pitch position. That would require an encoder on the motor or leadscrew itself. Then you would have to somehow feed that signal back to be read and decoded by another device or computer. Jim David Staten wrote: Jim... I am following up on a previous post from November that is attached below. You discussed using an ammeter and resistor to indicate relative power draw as an indication of how many amps your IVO was requiring. One question. Is this indication (using the equipment you have selected) ONLY when current is flowing? or does the needle stop where it last was indicated (as in, to make an adjustment that only toggles the switch for a moment, do you have to take time out at look at that gauge that very instant, or does it have some "memory" of position, like a trim indicator would? Im guessing its a momentary indication, but wanted to ask anyways. Dave James Maher wrote: Sure thing John. The link below is for the one that I am using. http://www.mouser.com/index.cfm?handler=displayproduct&lstdispproductid=276342&e_categoryid=643&e_pcodeid=03901 There are several styles but I like this one because it shows direction and relative amount without any actual values. You will have to insert a 0.015 ohm 5 watt resistor in series with one of the wires that drives the motor, as a current sense. The meter is then connected across this resistor. I used the one in the link below, also from Mouser. http://www.mouser.com/index.cfm?&handler=data.listcategory&D=*71LVR50.015*&terms=71-LVR5-0.015&Ntt=*71LVR50.015*&Dk=1&Ns=SField&N=0&crc=true This was not all my idea. I saw a gentleman at Oshkosh a few years ago with an old ammeter that did the same thing. I just updated to the newer style meter. It beats waiting for the circuit breaker to pop. Jim John Slade wrote: Jim, Can you point me to the "balance meter" you're using? John -- Homepage: http://www.flyrotary.com/ Archive and UnSub: http://mail.lancaironline.net/lists/flyrotary/ --0-1488186913-1137765220=:77159 Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit
Dave,
The meter just reads the relative current flow while the motor is engaged. It is not exactly a linear reading but it increases from just a few amps in the center of the travel to about 10 amps towards the ends of travel.
Much better than waiting for the breaker to pop.
It will not indicate prop pitch position.
That would require an encoder on the motor or leadscrew itself.
Then you would have to somehow feed that signal back to be read and decoded by another device or computer.
Jim
David Staten <Dastaten@earthlink.net> wrote:
Jim...

 I am following up on a previous post from November that is attached below. You discussed using an ammeter and resistor to indicate relative power draw as an indication of how many amps your IVO was requiring.
 
One question. Is this indication (using the equipment you have selected) ONLY when current is flowing? or does the needle stop where it last was indicated (as in, to make an adjustment that only toggles the switch for a moment, do you have to take time out at look at that gauge that very instant, or does it have some "memory" of position, like a trim indicator would?
 
Im guessing its a momentary indication, but wanted to ask anyways.
Dave


James Maher wrote:
Sure thing John.
The link below is for the one that I am using.
 
There are several styles but I like this one because it shows direction and relative amount
without any actual values.
You will have to insert a 0.015 ohm 5 watt resistor in series with one of the wires that drives the motor, as a current sense. The meter is then connected across this resistor.
I used the one in the link below, also from Mouser.
 
http://www.mouser.com/index.cfm?&handler=data.listcategory&D=*71LVR50.015*&terms=71-LVR5-0.015&Ntt=*71LVR50.015*&Dk=1&Ns=SField&N=0&crc=true
This was not all my idea.
I saw a gentleman at Oshkosh a few years ago with an old ammeter that did the same thing.
I just updated to the newer style meter.
It beats waiting for the circuit breaker to pop.
Jim
John Slade <sladerj@bellsouth.net> wrote:
Jim,
Can you point me to the "balance meter" you're using?
John

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