X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com Return-Path: Received: from fed1rmmtao07.cox.net ([68.230.241.32] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 5.0.6) with ESMTP id 933223 for flyrotary@lancaironline.net; Thu, 19 Jan 2006 16:49:53 -0500 Received-SPF: none receiver=logan.com; client-ip=68.230.241.32; envelope-from=dale.r@cox.net Received: from [192.168.1.100] (really [68.2.139.17]) by fed1rmmtao07.cox.net (InterMail vM.6.01.05.02 201-2131-123-102-20050715) with ESMTP id <20060119214810.ZGVP3131.fed1rmmtao07.cox.net@[192.168.1.100]> for ; Thu, 19 Jan 2006 16:48:10 -0500 Message-ID: <43D0093C.6000405@cox.net> Date: Thu, 19 Jan 2006 14:48:44 -0700 From: Dale Rogers User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0.6 (Windows/20050716) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Rotary motors in aircraft Subject: Re: [FlyRotary] Re: Fw: Lead Solvent or Cleaner References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Ed, Re: > Thanks for the report, Dale. You make a good point about degree of > adherence. I am uncertain the mechanism of the lead crystals > attaching to the ceramic cone. But, the wife came back with Hoppe #9 > and when I looked at the ingridents on the lable - there was only one > - Kerosene! > > If that is all it contains then that tells me is a mild cleaner and > lubricant but not a solvent of lead > Hate to say "dunno", but the issue is slightly complicated. I think they have to list the kerosene, for hazmat requirements. The actual formula - when it was produced by Penguin Industries - was a closely-guarded trade secret (like the formula for Coca-Cola.) I have been told the formula was changed, either while the brand was owned by Brunswick, or since it was acquired by Michael's of Oregon (big supplier of shooters' accessories). I'm still working off a supply I bought in the early 1980s, so I don't know if the new formula is an improvement (probably not, from Web reviews). The "solvent" designation probably originated from the early days (Hoppe's is over 100 years old) when gunpowder - including the then new "smokeless" powder - left a very hygroscopic and *corrosive* residue. The solvent was a much more convenient method of preventing bore destruction than the traditional "scrub with soapy water, then oil" method in use since black powder first was used to launch ball downrange. Okay - strictly speaking, it wasn't the powder, but rather the mercuric compound in the primer cap that left the corrosive salts in the bore. Anyway, unless Michael's has really gone cheap on the shooters, #9 is not _just_ kerosene. Dale R.