X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com Return-Path: Received: from mail.viclink.com ([206.212.237.11] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 5.0.6) with ESMTP id 929985 for flyrotary@lancaironline.net; Tue, 17 Jan 2006 12:35:47 -0500 Received-SPF: none receiver=logan.com; client-ip=206.212.237.11; envelope-from=pjmick@mail.viclink.com Received: from mail.viclink.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.viclink.com (8.13.2/8.13.2) with ESMTP id k0HHYvOH012871 for ; Tue, 17 Jan 2006 09:34:58 -0800 (PST) From: "Perry Mick" To: flyrotary@lancaironline.net Subject: TCP Doesn't Work? Date: Tue, 17 Jan 2006 10:34:57 -0700 Message-Id: <20060117171444.M19872@mail.viclink.com> X-Mailer: Open WebMail 1.90 20030226 X-OriginatingIP: 205.175.225.22 (pjmick) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 >Hi Perry, >Disappointed to hear that TCP did not work. May I ask "in what regard?". >Did the O2 sensor degrade? - SAG occur? >I purchased this product (Decalin) appears to function similar to TCP and >I noticed they say to clean the O2 sensor every 20 hours as well. I have >not tried it yet, but intend to in the near future. >Ed A I'm running the stock Mazda ECU still. It runs the engine rich best-power all the time, automatically compensating for altitude. This is open-loop mode not using the O2 sensor. It only uses the O2 sensor below 3000 RPM, which means it's only using it while I'm taxiing or on final approach. In fact the wire to my O2 sensor is broken, doesn't matter, I'm not using it, and it has no effect on engine operation even at idle RPM. The ECU will still run the engine without it. The problem with 100LL is it fouls the leading spark plugs after about 4 hours. The symptoms are exactly like SAG, just after takeoff with the corrupted plugs, there is a power loss and the engine is running only on the trailing plugs. When it first occurs, I can throttle back a little for a minute or so, then throttle back up and it clears. As the plugs get more corrupted this will no longer work and the plugs need to be removed and cleaned. So on my long trip to Kansas last summer I was able to burn mogas all the way to Kansas and on the return until I got to Logan Utah. I had some Decalin TCP with me to try because the fouling problem is well known to me and I avoid 100LL like the plague. I was west of the Rocky Mountains so I had many more options to land on the way back to Oregon, so I put in 100LL and TCP since I had no contacts in the area to help obtain mogas. I didn't have quite enough fuel to get all the way home to McMinnville OR so I had to stop in The Dalles to add a few more gallons of 100LL. By this time I had been burning 100LL for about 4 hours. Sure enough, as soon as I took off from The Dalles, big power loss. I circled the airport in the pattern throttled back until it cleared, then climbed out to the west over the Columbia river, everything fine from there to MMV. But I took the plugs out and cleaned them before my next flight and tried to dilute the remaing 100LL in the tanks with as much mogas as possible. At least in my situation the TCP did nothing. I've built a circuit to intercept and manipulate the airflow sensor signal to the ECU, for rich/lean control. It is installed in my RX-7 and works, eventually I will transplant it to the Long-EZ. Also considering a MSD system. Perry