X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com Return-Path: Received: from wproxy.gmail.com ([64.233.184.196] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 5.0.6) with ESMTP id 928353 for flyrotary@lancaironline.net; Mon, 16 Jan 2006 09:29:11 -0500 Received-SPF: pass receiver=logan.com; client-ip=64.233.184.196; envelope-from=russell.duffy@gmail.com Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 37so1151345wra for ; Mon, 16 Jan 2006 06:28:25 -0800 (PST) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:from:to:subject:date:message-id:mime-version:content-type:x-priority:x-msmail-priority:x-mailer:in-reply-to:x-mimeole:importance; b=HwkQ5/BiLIOwBMaO3n49PSB9xPPK9jt1uJY0WQ7GxWezLytDtNpMMm+TCwS81etxU1+tXZKyq50Nvvjwj2uKhgAalWwzuGhKp37zmqmTeBieQsN+76yiuVNOkTHPLsol+GcwDtoR9Y7CrPB7okUz0YNymIBccgnKb/8qL+gy720= Received: by 10.54.148.4 with SMTP id v4mr1109366wrd; Mon, 16 Jan 2006 06:28:25 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from rd ( [65.6.194.9]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id 10sm2991647wrl.2006.01.16.06.28.25; Mon, 16 Jan 2006 06:28:25 -0800 (PST) From: "Russell Duffy" To: "'Rotary motors in aircraft'" Subject: RE: [FlyRotary] Anatomy of an almost crash. Date: Mon, 16 Jan 2006 08:28:26 -0600 Message-ID: <011a01c61aa9$1d562d60$6101a8c0@rd> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_011B_01C61A76.D2BBBD60" X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.6626 In-Reply-To: X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2527 Importance: Normal This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_011B_01C61A76.D2BBBD60 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I had to set my RV-6 down on highway 395 near Bishop Tuesday, and here = is the story. Mostly things I could have done better, some that I did right = or otherwise got lucky. It is an RV6 tip up with a turbocharged Mazda = rotary engine. =20 =20 Hi Dave, =20 Congratulations on doing enough things right to avoid damage, or injury = to yourself, or others. With so much going against you, I'm not sure you = could hope for any better outcome. I don't think I've ever heard of anyone = losing oil, water, and the alternator all at once. =20 It will be really interesting to hear what you find when you look at the engine later. Does the engine have coolant, or oil in it now? =20 =20 If there's coolant, then I'm wondering if the stop leak plugged the = passages in the radiator enough that the thicker Evans NPG couldn't circulate. = If the engine overheated enough to cause the side housings to warp, then it would have taken out the oil seals, and side seals. That would cause = the loss of compression, and loss of oil through the exhaust, and breather = tube. I'm not sure how long it would take to dump all your oil that way. I = know when I cranked mine after the oil out incident, it looked like the plane = had a smoke system installed, so it might not take long. =20 =20 The apparent alternator failure is also a mystery. I can't imagine why = it would pick that time to die, or blow a fuse. =20 I'm afraid you may not find too many re-usable parts inside this engine = :-( =20 Good luck getting it home. A flat bed wrecker is great for hauling fuselages. It will need to be one of the longer ones though, 21 ft I = think, which not everyone around here has. That might be cost prohibitive depending on how far you have to go. Otherwise, a flat car hauler type trailer would probably work. =20 =20 Rusty =20 ------=_NextPart_000_011B_01C61A76.D2BBBD60 Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message
I had to set my RV-6 down on highway 395 near Bishop Tuesday, and = here is=20 the story. Mostly things I could have done better, some that I did right = or=20 otherwise got lucky. It is an RV6 tip up with a turbocharged Mazda = rotary=20 engine.  
 
Hi=20 Dave,
 
Congratulations on doing enough things right to avoid = damage, or=20 injury to yourself, or others.  With so much going against=20 you, I'm not sure you could hope for any better = outcome.  I don't=20 think I've ever heard of anyone losing oil, water, and the alternator = all at=20 once.
 
It will be=20 really interesting to hear what you find when you look at the engine=20 later.  Does the engine have coolant, or oil in it now? =20
 
If there's=20 coolant, then I'm wondering if the stop leak plugged the passages in the = radiator enough that the thicker Evans NPG couldn't=20 circulate.  If the engine overheated enough to cause = the side=20 housings to warp, then it would have taken out the oil seals, and side=20 seals.  That would cause the loss of compression, and loss of oil = through=20 the exhaust, and breather tube.  I'm not sure how long it = would take=20 to dump all your oil that way.  I know when I cranked mine = after the=20 oil out incident, it looked like the plane had a smoke system = installed, so=20 it might not take long.   
 
The apparent=20 alternator failure is also a mystery.  I can't imagine why it would = pick=20 that time to die, or blow a fuse.
 
I'm afraid=20 you may not find too many re-usable parts inside this engine=20 :-(
 
Good luck=20 getting it home.  A flat bed wrecker is great for hauling=20 fuselages.  It will need to be one of the longer ones though, = 21 ft I=20 think, which not everyone around here has.   That might = be cost=20 prohibitive depending on how far you have to go.  Otherwise, a flat = car=20 hauler type trailer would probably = work.   
 
Rusty
 
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