X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com Return-Path: Received: from smtp107.plus.mail.re2.yahoo.com ([206.190.53.32] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 5.0.6) with SMTP id 928288 for flyrotary@lancaironline.net; Mon, 16 Jan 2006 07:46:47 -0500 Received-SPF: none receiver=logan.com; client-ip=206.190.53.32; envelope-from=prvt_pilot@yahoo.com Received: (qmail 13654 invoked from network); 16 Jan 2006 12:46:01 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Received:Reply-To:From:To:Subject:Date:Message-ID:MIME-Version:Content-Type:X-Priority:X-MSMail-Priority:X-Mailer:X-MimeOLE:Importance:In-Reply-To; b=PlXn+PDBPylPHynCfOxrPIZZuRqDi5n+A7w6BuDatvP3nk5bKaVxQM5b5qP1xs2zoz/pzYj1l9FsJXR5h9+WgiKm8l0FqOHt+iMLRus9/Nm2Om4hQ4FwRY1726ppmXA9gfgoD4A8s5d2ugkjJDy+TRTrdPk7bo2M7j6vs9osHPE= ; Received: from unknown (HELO stevehome) (prvt?pilot@71.0.19.116 with login) by smtp107.plus.mail.re2.yahoo.com with SMTP; 16 Jan 2006 12:46:00 -0000 Reply-To: From: "Steve Brooks" To: "'Rotary motors in aircraft'" Subject: RE: [FlyRotary] Anatomy of an almost crash. Date: Mon, 16 Jan 2006 07:52:05 -0500 Message-ID: <04b901c61a9b$a7f5ba70$6400a8c0@workgroup.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_04BA_01C61A71.BF1FB270" X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook CWS, Build 9.0.6604 (9.0.2911.0) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1506 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_04BA_01C61A71.BF1FB270 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Wow Dave. I'm glad that it resulted in a safe landing. It appears that you've identified a series of events that led up to the problem. It is amazing how a series of seemingly unrelated problems and/or actions lead up to a major problem, or in may cases worse. I'm glad that it wasn't any worse, and it sounds like you made some very good decisions during the emergency. Well... maybe up to the point where you turned off the power. Might be good to revise your checklist on that one.. But overall, very good. I'll be very interested to hear about what may have caused the apparent accessory belt failure. You would assume that it has to be related somehow to the coolant leak. Maybe a catastrophic water pump failure ? perhaps that was the source of the coolant leak ? It will be interesting to find out. Steve Brooks -----Original Message----- From: Rotary motors in aircraft [mailto:flyrotary@lancaironline.net]On Behalf Of David Leonard Sent: Monday, January 16, 2006 1:54 AM To: Rotary motors in aircraft Subject: [FlyRotary] Anatomy of an almost crash. I had to set my RV-6 down on highway 395 near Bishop Tuesday, and here is the story. Mostly things I could have done better, some that I did right or otherwise got lucky. It is an RV6 tip up with a turbocharged Mazda rotary engine. I took the RV up to Mammoth to ski for the weekend. When I returned to the plane Sunday evening I discovered a small puddle of coolant under the engine. I had some concerns about the cold as my antifreeze had been recently diluted with water when I had to make a field repair of a coolant leak but I neglected to replace the antifreeze (big mistake #1). I estimated 25/75 antifreeze/water and the temperatures were supposed to be in the low 20's overnight. This I thought would be enough but I was not sure. The puddle of coolant seemed to prove that overnight the temp got low enough to freeze some coolant and crack something. A quick look under the cowl failed to reveal the souce of the leak other than it was not coming from the previously fixed coolant line or anywhere other than the radiator itself. I didn't have time to trouble shoot as I had to get home to be at work the next day. I was able to hitch a ride home in another aircraft, then drive back up the following evening after work. When I arrived at the airport at 10pm the temperature was 3 deg F. In order to prevent any further damage, I added some anti freeze and ran the engine for a while to circulate it. When I left the airport at 11:30 pm the temperature was -3 deg. This is obviously colder than I had expected and was probably responsible for the damage. The temperature in town was 20 deg despite the fact that town is higher in elevation. The only explanation I have for the extreme low temp at the airport is temperature loss from sublimation of the vast deep snow fields around the airport in the very dry air (just a guess). I arrived at sun-up the next morning (temp again 4 deg at airport but 19 in town) and got to work on fixing the leak. After several engine runs I determined that the leak was indeed coming from somewhere in the radiator. There did not seem to be any coolant in the oil, but I identified and fixed an oil leak in the turbo oil return line. Also, the engine breather tube (which vents down in the gear leg) had frozen and was causing the turbo to burn oil. That issue was fixed as well. In order to temporize the radiator leak I decided to use a can of radiator stop-leak and switch coolant to Evan's NPG. NPG is a pure propylene glycol coolant that has a very high boiling temp and can therefore be run with little or no coolant system pressure. I switched out the coolant, added the stop-leak, and changed to a 7 psi radiator cap. The stop-leak appeared to do it's job as there was no visible continued leak after an hour of running the engine on the ground at fast idle with some brief runs at higher RPM. At about 2pm I was cold (temp at the airport now in the mid 20's) and tired (had slept in the car overnight) but decided it was safe to make the flight to Bishop - 27 miles away and 3000 feet lower. There I would remove the cowl and give everything a good look. Since the coolant leak had only lost about a quart in 3 days, was now sealed and would be flown with low pressure I assumed the most I could loose in the 15 min flight would be about a cup of coolant (Big mistake #2?) The first 8 minutes of flight all systems were green. Then over the course of a minute the coolant temp went up to over 280, oil temp up to over 200 (the highest it has ever been). Being about half-way I decided to continue to the lower Bishop airport. Then the alternator quit (buss voltage dropped to 11.7 and battery showed a discharge). Then oil pressure dropped to zero, followed shortly after by the engine stopping to make power and a puff of smoke coming in into the cockpit thought the heater vent (cowl air - not a heat muff). It appeared as though I would be able to glide to the Bishop airport. I was at 9000 feet. Bishop was 13 miles away at 4000 feet with no significant winds. This distance is solidly within the typical glide ratio of the RV6 so I calmly assumed there would be an easy dead-stick onto the airport. I tried to get the prop to stop windmilling by slowing. In my initial flight testing I had been able to stop the prop from windmilling at about 80 kts. However, even by slowing to 65kts IAS I was unable to stop the windmilling. It turns out that overheating the engine had caused the loss of compression on all rotor faces and this prevented me from stopping the windmilling. I was seeing descent rates of 800-1000 fpm at 90 KIAS and it soon became apparent that making the airport would be sketchy at best, so I opted for a quality highway rather than try to overfly the town to make the airfield. I was able to spot a section of Hwy 395 that was 4-lane divided (no opposing traffic) that also seemed to be free of turns, power lines and intersections. I relayed my situation to the Bishop unicom and got a prompt response. I turned off my fuel pump and in accordance with my training turned off the master power on short final... Doh! I have all electric flight instruments and now had no time to re-boot either of my 2 air speed indicators. My plan for traffic avoidance was to come in faster than typical traffic speed, then bleed off that speed at 20 feet over the highway. That way any traffic has plenty of time to see me and slow down while I am bleeding off speed. Touchdown was uneventful and quite a relief. No injury or damage. The Bishop police were there within minutes, and 2 hours later the plane was tied down at the Bishop airport. I had no time or desire to remove the cowl so the cause is still very unclear. A loss of the accessory belt would explain both the inability to cool and the loss of the alternator, but my bet is still on something to do with the extreme cold and radiator leak. I have to shamefully admit that time pressures were a contributing factor. Feeling the need to return home, I probably rushed the testing process after making repairs. I should have circled Mammoth airport in order to test the repairs at high power before attempting continued flight, especially in mountainous terrain (though there is no freeway in SoCal that would be as forgiving as that section of 395). I plan to rent some kind of truck next weekend and drive up, remove the wings, and bring the plane home. It will remain in our garage for the next 8 months while I deploy to Iraq. (Suggestions or offers for use of an adequate truck or trailer would be much appreciated). This will also give me a chance to paint the plane and do a lot of the finishing touches that will be easier to do at home than at the airport. Obviously I will need to rebuild the engine as well, but that is a relatively minor issue. This was quite a learning experience I obviously hope I never have to repeat. All things considered, I feel quite lucky that things turned out so well. Lastly, I want to thank the Bishop Unicom, Police Dept, Highway Patrol, Cal Trans, and Fire Department who were all very professional and helpful. Also, thank you to the fellow RV6 owner was passing by and took an hour and a half out of his day to drive back up to Mammoth and get my car for me. -- Dave Leonard Turbo Rotary RV-6 N4VY http://members.aol.com/_ht_a/rotaryroster/index.html http://members.aol.com/_ht_a/vp4skydoc/index.html ------=_NextPart_000_04BA_01C61A71.BF1FB270 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Wow=20 Dave.  I'm glad that it resulted in a safe landing.  It = appears that=20 you've identified a series of events that led up to the problem.  = It is=20 amazing how a series of seemingly unrelated problems and/or actions lead = up to a=20 major problem, or in may cases worse.
 
I'm=20 glad that it wasn't any worse, and it sounds like you made some very = good=20 decisions during the emergency.  Well... maybe up to the point = where you=20 turned off the power.  Might be good to revise your checklist on = that=20 one..  But overall, very good.
 
I'll=20 be very interested to hear about what may have caused the apparent = accessory=20 belt failure.  You would assume that it has to be related somehow = to the=20 coolant leak.  Maybe a catastrophic water pump failure ? perhaps = that was=20 the source of the coolant leak ? It will be interesting to find=20 out.
 
Steve=20 Brooks
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-----Original Message-----
From: Rotary motors in = aircraft=20 [mailto:flyrotary@lancaironline.net]On Behalf Of David=20 Leonard
Sent: Monday, January 16, 2006 1:54 AM
To: = Rotary=20 motors in aircraft
Subject: [FlyRotary] Anatomy of an almost = crash.

I had to set my RV-6 down on highway 395 near Bishop Tuesday, and = here is=20 the story. Mostly things I could have done better, some that I did = right or=20 otherwise got lucky. It is an RV6 tip up with a turbocharged Mazda = rotary=20 engine.

I took the RV up to Mammoth to ski for the weekend. When I returned = to the=20 plane Sunday evening I discovered a small puddle of coolant under the = engine.=20 I had some concerns about the cold as my antifreeze had been recently = diluted=20 with water when I had to make a field repair of a coolant leak but I = neglected=20 to replace the antifreeze (big mistake #1). I estimated 25/75 = antifreeze/water=20 and the temperatures were supposed to be in the low 20's overnight. = This I=20 thought would be enough but I was not sure. The puddle of coolant = seemed to=20 prove that overnight the temp got low enough to freeze some coolant = and crack=20 something.

A quick look under the cowl failed to reveal the souce of the leak = other=20 than it was not coming from the previously fixed coolant line or = anywhere=20 other than the radiator itself. I didn't have time to trouble shoot as = I had=20 to get home to be at work the next day.

I was able to hitch a ride home in another aircraft, then drive = back up the=20 following evening after work. When I arrived at the airport at 10pm = the=20 temperature was 3 deg F. In order to prevent any further damage, I = added some=20 anti freeze and ran the engine for a while to circulate it. When I = left the=20 airport at 11:30 pm the temperature was -3 deg. This is obviously = colder than=20 I had expected and was probably responsible for the damage. The = temperature in=20 town was 20 deg despite the fact that town is higher in elevation. The = only=20 explanation I have for the extreme low temp at the airport is = temperature loss=20 from sublimation of the vast deep snow fields around the airport in = the very=20 dry air (just a guess).

I arrived at sun-up the next morning (temp again 4 deg at airport = but 19 in=20 town) and got to work on fixing the leak. After several engine runs I=20 determined that the leak was indeed coming from somewhere in the = radiator.=20 There did not seem to be any coolant in the oil, but I identified and = fixed an=20 oil leak in the turbo oil return line. Also, the engine breather tube = (which=20 vents down in the gear leg) had frozen and was causing the turbo to = burn oil.=20 That issue was fixed as well.

In order to temporize the radiator leak I decided to use a can of = radiator=20 stop-leak and switch coolant to Evan's NPG. NPG is a pure propylene = glycol=20 coolant that has a very high boiling temp and can therefore be run = with little=20 or no coolant system pressure. I switched out the coolant, added the=20 stop-leak, and changed to a 7 psi radiator cap. The stop-leak appeared = to do=20 it's job as there was no visible continued leak after an hour of = running the=20 engine on the ground at fast idle with some brief runs at higher RPM. =

At about 2pm I was cold (temp at the airport now in the mid 20's) = and tired=20 (had slept in the car overnight) but decided it was safe to make the = flight to=20 Bishop - 27 miles away and 3000 feet lower. There I would remove the = cowl and=20 give everything a good look. Since the coolant leak had only lost = about a=20 quart in 3 days, was now sealed and would be flown with low pressure I = assumed=20 the most I could loose in the 15 min flight would be about a cup of = coolant=20 (Big mistake #2?)

The first 8 minutes of flight all systems were green. Then over the = course=20 of a minute the coolant temp went up to over 280, oil temp up to over = 200 (the=20 highest it has ever been). Being about half-way I decided to continue = to the=20 lower Bishop airport. Then the alternator quit (buss voltage dropped = to 11.7=20 and battery showed a discharge). Then oil pressure dropped to zero, = followed=20 shortly after by the engine stopping to make power and a puff of smoke = coming=20 in into the cockpit thought the heater vent (cowl air - not a heat = muff).

It appeared as though I would be able to glide to the Bishop = airport. I was=20 at 9000 feet. Bishop was 13 miles away at 4000 feet with no = significant winds.=20 This distance is solidly within the typical glide ratio of the RV6 so = I calmly=20 assumed there would be an easy dead-stick onto the airport.

I tried to get the prop to stop windmilling by slowing. In my = initial=20 flight testing I had been able to stop the prop from windmilling at = about 80=20 kts. However, even by slowing to 65kts IAS I was unable to stop the=20 windmilling. It turns out that overheating the engine had caused the = loss of=20 compression on all rotor faces and this prevented me from stopping the = windmilling. I was seeing descent rates of 800-1000 fpm at 90 KIAS and = it soon=20 became apparent that making the airport would be sketchy at best, so I = opted=20 for a quality highway rather than try to overfly the town to make the=20 airfield.

I was able to spot a section of Hwy 395 that was 4-lane divided (no = opposing traffic) that also seemed to be free of turns, power lines = and=20 intersections. I relayed my situation to the Bishop unicom and got a = prompt=20 response. I turned off my fuel pump and in accordance with my training = turned=20 off the master power on short final... Doh! I have all electric flight = instruments and now had no time to re-boot either of my 2 air speed=20 indicators.

My plan for traffic avoidance was to come in faster than typical = traffic=20 speed, then bleed off that speed at 20 feet over the highway. That way = any=20 traffic has plenty of time to see me and slow down while I am bleeding = off=20 speed. Touchdown was uneventful and quite a relief. No injury or = damage.

The Bishop police were there within minutes, and 2 hours later the = plane=20 was tied down at the Bishop airport. I had no time or desire to remove = the=20 cowl so the cause is still very unclear. A loss of the accessory belt = would=20 explain both the inability to cool and the loss of the alternator, but = my bet=20 is still on something to do with the extreme cold and radiator leak. I = have to=20 shamefully admit that time pressures were a contributing factor. = Feeling the=20 need to return home, I probably rushed the testing process after = making=20 repairs. I should have circled Mammoth airport in order to test the = repairs at=20 high power before attempting continued flight, especially in = mountainous=20 terrain (though there is no freeway in SoCal that would be as = forgiving as=20 that section of 395).

I plan to rent some kind of truck next weekend and drive up, remove = the=20 wings, and bring the plane home. It will remain in our garage for the = next 8=20 months while I deploy to Iraq. (Suggestions or offers for use of an = adequate=20 truck or trailer would be much appreciated). This will also give me a = chance=20 to paint the plane and do a lot of the finishing touches that will be = easier=20 to do at home than at the airport. Obviously I will need to rebuild = the engine=20 as well, but that is a relatively minor issue.

This was quite a learning experience I obviously hope I never have = to=20 repeat. All things considered, I feel quite lucky that things turned = out so=20 well.

Lastly, I want to thank the Bishop Unicom, Police Dept, Highway = Patrol, Cal=20 Trans, and Fire Department who were all very professional and helpful. = Also,=20 thank you to the fellow RV6 owner was passing by and took an hour and = a half=20 out of his day to drive back up to Mammoth and get my car for me. =


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Dave Leonard
Turbo Rotary RV-6 N4VY
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