X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com Return-Path: Received: from [216.52.245.18] (HELO ispwest-email1.mdeinc.com) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 5.0.6) with ESMTP id 924630 for flyrotary@lancaironline.net; Thu, 12 Jan 2006 18:48:21 -0500 Received-SPF: none receiver=logan.com; client-ip=216.52.245.18; envelope-from=wschertz@ispwest.com Received: from 7n7z201 (unverified [63.13.186.102]) by ispwest-email1.mdeinc.com (Vircom SMTPRS 4.3.450.0) with SMTP id for ; Thu, 12 Jan 2006 15:47:20 -0800 X-Modus-BlackList: 63.13.186.102=OK;wschertz@ispwest.com=OK X-Modus-RBL: 63.13.186.102=OK X-Modus-Trusted: 63.13.186.102=NO Message-ID: <016601c617d2$8353dc40$0400000a@7n7z201> From: "William" To: "Rotary motors in aircraft" References: Subject: Re: [FlyRotary] Re: return lines Date: Thu, 12 Jan 2006 17:47:11 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0163_01C617A0.370F17A0" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0163_01C617A0.370F17A0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MessageI was wondering about the returning it to the far end of the = tank, I believe that in my configuration, (long skinny tank in leading = edge) there would be some 'hangup ' of fuel that is returned and has to = flow back down the tank to the pickup bay. I haven't decided on what to = do yet. Bill Schertz KIS Cruiser # 4045 ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Russell Duffy=20 To: Rotary motors in aircraft=20 Sent: Thursday, January 12, 2006 4:37 PM Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: return lines OK! So what size? Already have 1/4" vent, 1/2" supply. Should the = return be larger then supply, similar to oil return lines? Don't want to = have to do it three times (like I usually do) Hi Tom, Yes, you need to run return lines, unless you have some sort of header = tank that can be used for the return. I believe we can probably all = agree that it's best to go back to the tank though. If you use a system = like Tracy has, where you feed from only one tank, then you can return = to only that tank as well. If you think you might ever install a duplex = valve to feed/return from both tanks, then you'd better install a return = on both tanks now. (You're welcome Rich ). You can run the returns just through the root rib, but it's somewhat = better to run them to the far outboard end, similar to the way Van has = you run the vent line. It gets the warmer fuel outboard, away from the = pickup, and positions it in an air pocket, so there won't be any = backpressure on the return line. You can also run the pumps for a few = minutes to aid in mixing the oil into the fuel if you're using premix. = As for the size, there's no need for larger return lines than what you = ran for the supply, though it certainly wouldn't hurt. I'd run AN-6 = size for all the fuel lines. =20 Cheers, Rusty (video's were cool Bob) ------=_NextPart_000_0163_01C617A0.370F17A0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message
I was wondering about the returning it = to the far=20 end of the tank, I believe that in my configuration, (long skinny tank = in=20 leading edge) there would be some 'hangup ' of fuel that is returned and = has to=20 flow back down the tank to the pickup bay. I haven't decided on what to = do=20 yet.
Bill Schertz
KIS Cruiser # 4045
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From:=20 Russell=20 Duffy
Sent: Thursday, January 12, = 2006 4:37=20 PM
Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: return = lines

OK! So = what size?=20 Already have 1/4" vent, 1/2" supply. Should the return be larger then = supply,=20 similar to oil return lines? Don't want to have to do it three times = (like I=20 usually do)
 
Hi=20 Tom,
 
Yes, you=20 need to run return lines, unless you have some sort of header tank = that can be=20 used for the return.  I believe we can probably all agree that = it's best=20 to go back to the tank though.  If you use a system like Tracy = has, where=20 you feed from only one tank, then you can return to only that tank as=20 well.  If you think you might ever install a duplex valve to = feed/return=20 from both tanks, then you'd better install a return on both tanks = now. =20 (You're welcome Rich <g>).
 
You can run=20 the returns just through the root rib, but it's somewhat better to run = them to=20 the far outboard end, similar to the way Van has you run the vent = line. =20 It gets the warmer fuel outboard, away from the pickup, = and positions it=20 in an air pocket, so there won't be any backpressure on = the return=20 line.  You can also run the pumps for a few minutes to aid = in=20 mixing the oil into the fuel if you're using premix. =20  
 
As for the=20 size, there's no need for larger return lines than what you ran for = the=20 supply, though it certainly wouldn't hurt.  I'd run AN-6 size for = all the=20 fuel lines.   
 
Cheers,
Rusty=20 (video's were cool Bob)
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