X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com Return-Path: Received: from imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net ([205.152.59.64] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 5.0.6) with ESMTP id 924115 for flyrotary@lancaironline.net; Thu, 12 Jan 2006 14:15:37 -0500 Received-SPF: pass receiver=logan.com; client-ip=205.152.59.64; envelope-from=ceengland@bellsouth.net Received: from ibm58aec.bellsouth.net ([209.215.61.38]) by imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net with ESMTP id <20060112191448.RHCX29690.imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net@ibm58aec.bellsouth.net> for ; Thu, 12 Jan 2006 14:14:48 -0500 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (really [209.215.61.38]) by ibm58aec.bellsouth.net with ESMTP id <20060112191446.OPSB11466.ibm58aec.bellsouth.net@[127.0.0.1]> for ; Thu, 12 Jan 2006 14:14:46 -0500 Message-ID: <43C6AAA1.7050202@bellsouth.net> Date: Thu, 12 Jan 2006 13:14:41 -0600 From: Charlie England User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.2) Gecko/20040804 Netscape/7.2 (ax) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Rotary motors in aircraft Subject: Re: [FlyRotary] Re: Cool Tube Muffler Sound Readings References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Ernest Christley wrote: > Bob White wrote: > >> I guess after that it's just a matter of whether I'm happy with >> the noise level in the cockpit. >> >> Bob W. >> > And do we really care what the people we leave on the ground think!? > > 8*) Well, I guess that would depend on if we want to come back, but > your point is insightful. Taking readings at the wing tips and such > is interesting, the cockpit is the crucial area. There's some > correlation between the sound at the wing and the sound in the > cockpit, but I'm sure that various configurations will direct the > sound in different directions. If I can direct that sound energy at > the wing instead of the cockpit...well, the guys in the hangar will > just have to stop talking for a second while I leave. Right? > > Once in the air (so the ground isn't reflecting), are straight pipes > pointed down better for the pilot than ones that are angled back? > Pipes pointed down (any direction perpendicular to airflow) will increase drag significantly. Bob, 3000 rpm implies about the power level needed for a fast taxi. I'd guesstimate that 104-105dB is at least 10dB louder than a small Lyc at taxi power. (That's a *big* difference.) Simplified info about weighting scales on dB meters (from 20 year old memory): The A scale on a dB meter is designed to approximate the human ear's frequency responce curve *at low volume*. Any time you see a company hyping their product's noise level & quotes levels based on the A curve, they are hiding the true noise level of the product. At high noise levels, your ear is no respector of weighting curves & the frequency extremes that are filtered by the meter's A weighing still damage your ear. Charlie