X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com Return-Path: Received: from [65.54.250.80] (HELO hotmail.com) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 5.0.6) with ESMTP id 923714 for flyrotary@lancaironline.net; Thu, 12 Jan 2006 09:37:12 -0500 Received-SPF: pass receiver=logan.com; client-ip=65.54.250.80; envelope-from=lors01@msn.com Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Thu, 12 Jan 2006 06:32:42 -0800 Message-ID: Received: from 4.174.6.50 by BAY115-DAV8.phx.gbl with DAV; Thu, 12 Jan 2006 14:32:41 +0000 X-Originating-IP: [4.174.6.50] X-Originating-Email: [lors01@msn.com] X-Sender: lors01@msn.com From: "Tracy Crook" To: "Rotary motors in aircraft" References: Subject: Re: [FlyRotary] Re: Momentary pucker X's 3 Date: Thu, 12 Jan 2006 09:32:35 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_00BD_01C6175B.1ED11700" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: MSN 9 X-MimeOLE: Produced By MSN MimeOLE V9.10.0011.1703 Seal-Send-Time: Thu, 12 Jan 2006 09:32:35 -0500 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 12 Jan 2006 14:32:42.0013 (UTC) FILETIME=[0BA59CD0:01C61785] This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_00BD_01C6175B.1ED11700 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I had the same thought but the scenario is wrong for this. The "miss" = would happen only at full throttle (usually during climb) and never at = cruise or low power if slipping input shaft were the cause. This is of = course based on one example but logically, that is what you would = expect. I do intend to add data logging to the EM2 & EC2 but in my experience so = far, it would take a VERY sophisticated diagnostic to detect this type = of problem. None of the aviation type data logging systems currently on = the market will do it. The BMW engine controller (and probably others) = can do it however. The listing of engine fault codes is over 200 pages = long. It can detect and log a single cylinder miss and tell you which = one it was. There are probably more engineering man hours in that = controller than I have left to live. Tracy Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: Momentary pucker X's 3 Just a lurker here, but could it have been the shaft in the psru, = slipping and rewelding, as just stated on the threads? Duane Service, = Florida -----Original Message----- >From: Charlie England = > >Sent: Jan 11, 2006 6:08 PM >To: Rotary motors in aircraft = > >Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: Momentary pucker X's 3 > >WALTER B KERR wrote: > >>Flying around the neighborhood today and about 30 minutes into = flight >>there was a momentary hic-up. Everything on monitor looked normal, = so >>richened a tad and continued flying. About 5 minutes later, same = thing >>second verse, and then a third time. Went to full power and rich and = it >>did not repeat. No miss while descending to land or while taxing in. = Ran >>up a full static for a minute on the ground and everything appeared >>normal. >> >>Any suggestions??? >> >>Bernie, not wanting to start to Lakeland with an unknow problem! >> =20 >> > >Nothing constructive to offer, but is there a Lyc part hiding under = the=20 >cowl somewhere? > > >-- >Homepage: http://www.flyrotary.com/ >Archive and UnSub: = http://mail.lancaironline.net/lists/flyrotary/ -- Homepage: http://www.flyrotary.com/ Archive and UnSub: = http://mail.lancaironline.net/lists/flyrotary/ ------=_NextPart_000_00BD_01C6175B.1ED11700 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
I had the same thought but the scenario is wrong for this.  = The "miss"=20 would happen only at full throttle (usually during climb) and never at = cruise or=20 low power if slipping input shaft were the cause.  This is of = course=20 based on one example but logically, that is what you would = expect.
 
I do intend to add data logging to the EM2 & EC2 but in my = experience=20 so far, it would take a VERY sophisticated diagnostic to detect this = type of=20 problem.  None of the aviation type data logging systems currently = on the=20 market will do it.  The BMW engine controller (and probably others) = can do=20 it however.  The listing of engine fault codes is over 200 pages=20 long.  It can detect and log a single cylinder miss and tell you = which one=20 it was.   There are probably more engineering man hours = in that=20 controller than I have left to live.
 
Tracy
Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: = Momentary pucker=20 X's 3

Just a lurker here, but could it have been the shaft in = the=20 psru, slipping and rewelding, as just stated on the threads?  = Duane=20 Service, Florida

-----Original Message-----
>From: = Charlie=20 England <ceengland@bellsouth.net>>Sent:=20 Jan 11, 2006 6:08 PM
>To: Rotary motors in aircraft <flyrotary@lancaironline.net>
>Subject:=20 [FlyRotary] Re: Momentary pucker X's 3
>
>WALTER B KERR=20 wrote:
>
>>Flying around the neighborhood today and = about 30=20 minutes into flight
>>there was a momentary hic-up. = Everything on=20 monitor looked normal, so
>>richened a tad and continued = flying.=20 About 5 minutes later, same thing
>>second verse, and then a = third=20 time. Went to full power and rich and it
>>did not repeat. No = miss=20 while descending to land or while taxing in. Ran
>>up a full = static=20 for a minute on the ground and everything=20 appeared
>>normal.
>>
>>Any=20 suggestions???
>>
>>Bernie, not wanting to start to = Lakeland=20 with an unknow problem!
>>  =
>>
>
>Nothing=20 constructive to offer, but is there a Lyc part hiding under the =
>cowl=20 somewhere?
>
>
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