X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com Return-Path: Received: from wproxy.gmail.com ([64.233.184.201] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 5.0.3) with ESMTP id 867608 for flyrotary@lancaironline.net; Wed, 07 Dec 2005 21:36:13 -0500 Received-SPF: pass receiver=logan.com; client-ip=64.233.184.201; envelope-from=hansconser@gmail.com Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id i2so816843wra for ; Wed, 07 Dec 2005 18:35:28 -0800 (PST) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:content-type:message-id:content-transfer-encoding:from:subject:date:to:x-mailer; b=P6oogf/NUnICU9XahPl6neEMFe38pC8PAL+P462Bxv4/msGQnVVfFuIQJFO6jAtAyJWxJv+P+zGRi42IpszYFmSIpqiuAbHvztXlhC7ADrlNao9BTykE5LeGPPtiP8xWSCVHnFziTZ2JQERBmJAS16yMDA9pzvRtT9zCVnl+rQI= Received: by 10.54.118.5 with SMTP id q5mr3886681wrc; Wed, 07 Dec 2005 18:35:27 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from ?192.168.0.2? ( [71.36.199.59]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id d16sm3607852wra.2005.12.07.18.35.27; Wed, 07 Dec 2005 18:35:27 -0800 (PST) Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v623) In-Reply-To: References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Message-Id: Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Hans Conser Subject: Re: [FlyRotary] Re: Another Excommunication Date: Wed, 7 Dec 2005 19:35:22 -0700 To: "Rotary motors in aircraft" X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.623) I have a theory that not all people that think they were banned were actually banned... Some may be removed due to email bounces... On Dec 7, 2005, at 6:54 PM, Charlie England wrote: > Ed's right; people should be able to have knock down, drag out > disagreements about the subject at hand & even tolerate abuse in the > interest of advancing the knowledge base, then sit down & eat a meal > or have a drink together. Ed and I can certify that this is possible, > right Ed? > > Censorship, personal attacks, banishing members outright because they > disagree with your position, etc all work counter to the purpose of > these lists & make this hobby more dangerous because peer review is > effectively killed. > > I suspect that you would be shocked if you could see a head count of > all the people on this list who have been involuntarily banned from > the other list. > > You might be right about this particular banishment, but based on > statistical odds, my money is on the other guy's version. > > Charlie > banned 2003 (I think) > > Ed Anderson wrote: > >> You may be right, Jerry. But, its not only what is communicated >> that's important but how its communicated that can make a difference. >> Especially using e mails as the conduct. >> In any case, derogatory comments and/or abusive language from >> "adults" is unexceptable behavior in most company. Don't know if it >> happened in this case, but I know it happens, because I've been on >> the receiving end. Ed A >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: Jerry Hey >> To: Rotary motors in aircraft >> Sent: Wednesday, December 07, 2005 4:37 PM >> Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: Another Excommunication >> >> Remember that you have only heard one person's version, I know >> the entire history and think Paul Lamar was being very helpful to >> Bill. Sometimes when the facts are not what we hoped, anger is >> the response. Bill is free to do what he wants but he got good >> advice from Paul Lamar that he should consider once he has had >> time to cool down. >> This is my first and last comment on this issue. Jerry >> >> >> >> >> >> On Dec 7, 2005, at 4:15 PM, wrjjrs@aol.com >> wrote: >> >>> Just your opinion, but I like it! >>> Bill Jepson >>> Too bad, he can be a nice and personable fellow when not >>> threatened. >>> Just my opinion of course, not a trained psychiatrist, >>> although I >>> did sleep at a Holiday Inn once or twice. >>> Ed A >>> >> >> > > > > -- > Homepage: http://www.flyrotary.com/ > Archive and UnSub: http://mail.lancaironline.net/lists/flyrotary/ >