X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com Return-Path: Received: from web30113.mail.mud.yahoo.com ([68.142.201.221] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 5.0.3) with SMTP id 861810 for flyrotary@lancaironline.net; Sat, 03 Dec 2005 10:36:15 -0500 Received-SPF: none receiver=logan.com; client-ip=68.142.201.221; envelope-from=prvt_pilot@yahoo.com Received: (qmail 44666 invoked by uid 60001); 3 Dec 2005 15:35:26 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:Received:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=Nd6F3Q9QfEY3NQTir+9b+w2RceXZ2fXqdxMIC13Uxkrfb+6qCcafYtzHn8kmciSEzdsCa4rYm5QCTgoXaf/TR+SYbk2vAzArwXacGivPnC7AE/E+fzdpySDawMpVWEWKQvDLkQX/sc1sy/8SY05yiF58xcyM5ojmzup8A/dEi6I= ; Message-ID: <20051203153526.44664.qmail@web30113.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Received: from [63.135.38.149] by web30113.mail.mud.yahoo.com via HTTP; Sat, 03 Dec 2005 07:35:26 PST Date: Sat, 3 Dec 2005 07:35:26 -0800 (PST) From: Steve Brooks Subject: Re: [FlyRotary] Re: Intersting flight To: Rotary motors in aircraft In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Hi Al, You make an excellent point on the single failure point. I've been trying to come up with a way to eliminate the problem, but outside of going to 2 switches, I'm not sure how to do it. Even with 2 switches the one for the engine is still a single failure point for the engine. The emergency checklist is also a good idea. I'm going to check today, I think that I already have one with my preflight checklist. A placard for engine out is probably better though, rather than trying to find a paper copy during an emergency. Steve --- Al Gietzen wrote: > What a relief the find that the power came back on; > and that you landed > without mishap. My adrenalin level was going up when > I got to the part of > your story where you were heading for the highway. > > > > I see two important lessons in your experience; > > Redundancy in the system isn't much good if there is > still a single point > failure. > > Have an emergency checklist that is well memorized, > but kept handy. > > > > Glad everything is OK, > > > > Al > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Rotary motors in aircraft > [mailto:flyrotary@lancaironline.net] On > Behalf Of Steve Brooks > Sent: Saturday, December 03, 2005 6:29 AM > To: Rotary motors in aircraft > Subject: [FlyRotary] Intersting flight > > > > I made it down to South Carolina, to among other > > things, fly the Cozy. It had been 2 months to the > day > > since I had been down, so the remaining 8 hours of > the > > 40 test hours have been slow to come off. > > > > On Thursday I washed about 30 lbs of dust off of the > > plane (open T hanger) and checked everything out. I > > did a high speed run down the runway, but didn't > have > > time to get in a flight. > > > > Yesterday I went to the airport after it warmed up a > > few degrees, and took off. The engine was running > > very strong in the cooler air (54 degrees). I had > > planned to do about a 30 minute flight ad land, just > > to check everything out, and was was doing turns and > > just cruising around about 6-7 miles from the > airport > > at about 2900 MSL (2300 AGL). While flying straight > > and level, I felt a sudden miss in engine. When I > > check the I/P, I also noticed that the digital > gauges, > > fuel and oil, had rebooted. I immediately started a > > turn toward the airport. > > > > About 15 seconds later, I lost total electric. The > > I/P went dead, and so did the engine. This isn't > > good, I thought. Actually, it was more like, OH > SH**. > > I took a look at the airport, and I was too far to > > make it there, so I looked around, and a 4 lane > > highway, which has light traffic appeared to be my > > best option. I had just started turning toward that > > highway, when the electric power came back, and the > > engine picked back up. > > > > I immediately started a climb, and headed toward the > > airport again. I already knew that there was a > plane > > in the pattern doing touch and goes (unicom field), > so > > I called the airport and advised the other aircraft > > that I had a serious issue, and needed to make a > > straight in landing. > > > > It didn't lose power again, on the trip back to the > > airport, but that 6-7 miles seemed to take forever. > I > > stayed on the high side on altitude, for obvious > > reasons, and then had to bleed altitude (and speed) > > while on short final. I came in a little fast, and > > touched down earlier than normal, but still was on > the > > ground, and very happy. > > > > Since I have two separate electrical systems (engine > > and everything else), I was really stunned that I > lost > > both like that. After thinking about it for I > while, > > I figured out that the master switch was the only > > common link. I pulled the I/P cover off, and found > > that the ground connector was pulled off of the > > terminal and just sitting there barely touching the > > contact. > > The cause of this was the fact that when I did an > > annual on the plane in May, I had added some > addition > > ty-raps to dress up the wiring a little more. In > > doing so, I had stretched the ground wire which runs > > to the master switch, which energizes the two master > > relays. > > > > It was an easy fix, but now I have to replenish the > > adrenalin supply, and figure out how to get the > ridge > > out of the seat cushion. > > > > After some ground testing, I made another flight > > (circling the airport) and everything checked out > OK. > > > > > > I have an emergency bypass switch that will supply > > power to the engine systems from either the forward > or > > aft battery. I didn't think to switch it over, but > I > === message truncated ===