X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com Return-Path: Received: from [24.25.9.100] (HELO ms-smtp-01-eri0.southeast.rr.com) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 5.0.3) with ESMTP id 861795 for flyrotary@lancaironline.net; Sat, 03 Dec 2005 10:05:41 -0500 Received-SPF: pass receiver=logan.com; client-ip=24.25.9.100; envelope-from=eanderson@carolina.rr.com Received: from edward2 (cpe-024-074-025-165.carolina.res.rr.com [24.74.25.165]) by ms-smtp-01-eri0.southeast.rr.com (8.12.10/8.12.7) with SMTP id jB3F4qWe014785 for ; Sat, 3 Dec 2005 10:04:52 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <000301c5f81a$a571e470$2402a8c0@edward2> From: "Ed Anderson" To: "Rotary motors in aircraft" References: Subject: Re: [FlyRotary] Intersting flight Date: Sat, 3 Dec 2005 10:02:57 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 X-Virus-Scanned: Symantec AntiVirus Scan Engine Hi Steve Very glad to hear you and aircraft got back on the ground safely. Yes, events like those really do use up seat cushions - don't they. Glad you found the problem - amazing how little things like adding tie wraps can cause such an exciting "adventure". I too have a "Live Man" switch, actually a circuit breaker (normally open) that when I push it in by-passes power around all switches to the critical systems (fuel and spark). I aborted a take-off from a 2200 ft runway (after getting airborne) when the engine began to surge. Only thing I did have time to do (which in hind sight was a waste of effort) was too push in the circuit breaker. Of course, the odds of a surging engine being caused by a electrical problem is low - turned out it was the fuel map set too low for the higher engine rpms (this was when I was using an HALTECH EFI which you had to tune with laptop). But, a good idea in my opinion since often use switches could possibly fail. In any case, sounds like all the thought processes regarding what to do were well done Land long and land hot if you have too - far better to go off the far end doing 20 mph than end up short on distance or airspeed - my opinion, of course. Ed A ----- Original Message ----- From: "Steve Brooks" To: "Rotary motors in aircraft" Sent: Saturday, December 03, 2005 9:28 AM Subject: [FlyRotary] Intersting flight >I made it down to South Carolina, to among other > things, fly the Cozy. It had been 2 months to the day > since I had been down, so the remaining 8 hours of the > 40 test hours have been slow to come off. > > On Thursday I washed about 30 lbs of dust off of the > plane (open T hanger) and checked everything out. I > did a high speed run down the runway, but didn't have > time to get in a flight. > > Yesterday I went to the airport after it warmed up a > few degrees, and took off. The engine was running > very strong in the cooler air (54 degrees). I had > planned to do about a 30 minute flight ad land, just > to check everything out, and was was doing turns and > just cruising around about 6-7 miles from the airport > at about 2900 MSL (2300 AGL). While flying straight > and level, I felt a sudden miss in engine. When I > check the I/P, I also noticed that the digital gauges, > fuel and oil, had rebooted. I immediately started a > turn toward the airport. > > About 15 seconds later, I lost total electric. The > I/P went dead, and so did the engine. This isn't > good, I thought. Actually, it was more like, OH SH**. > I took a look at the airport, and I was too far to > make it there, so I looked around, and a 4 lane > highway, which has light traffic appeared to be my > best option. I had just started turning toward that > highway, when the electric power came back, and the > engine picked back up. > > I immediately started a climb, and headed toward the > airport again. I already knew that there was a plane > in the pattern doing touch and goes (unicom field), so > I called the airport and advised the other aircraft > that I had a serious issue, and needed to make a > straight in landing. > > It didn't lose power again, on the trip back to the > airport, but that 6-7 miles seemed to take forever. I > stayed on the high side on altitude, for obvious > reasons, and then had to bleed altitude (and speed) > while on short final. I came in a little fast, and > touched down earlier than normal, but still was on the > ground, and very happy. > > Since I have two separate electrical systems (engine > and everything else), I was really stunned that I lost > both like that. After thinking about it for I while, > I figured out that the master switch was the only > common link. I pulled the I/P cover off, and found > that the ground connector was pulled off of the > terminal and just sitting there barely touching the > contact. > The cause of this was the fact that when I did an > annual on the plane in May, I had added some addition > ty-raps to dress up the wiring a little more. In > doing so, I had stretched the ground wire which runs > to the master switch, which energizes the two master > relays. > > It was an easy fix, but now I have to replenish the > adrenalin supply, and figure out how to get the ridge > out of the seat cushion. > > After some ground testing, I made another flight > (circling the airport) and everything checked out OK. > > > I have an emergency bypass switch that will supply > power to the engine systems from either the forward or > aft battery. I didn't think to switch it over, but I > really didn't get to the point of doing any trouble > shooting, so I'm not sure if I would have thought of > that option or not. It was without power for only > about 20 seconds, but it seemed much longer. I will > definitely remember the emergency power switch, should > I every have an issue like that again, but I hope that > never happens. > > This isn't nearly as harrowing as some of the > experiences that Ed or John have had, but it was > plenty for me. I don't want any more glider time. > > Steve Brooks > Cozy MKIV > Turbo rotary > > > -- > Homepage: http://www.flyrotary.com/ > Archive and UnSub: http://mail.lancaironline.net/lists/flyrotary/ >