X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com Return-Path: Received: from [199.185.220.224] (HELO priv-edtnes40.telusplanet.net) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 5.0.3) with ESMTP id 860136 for flyrotary@lancaironline.net; Fri, 02 Dec 2005 03:33:43 -0500 Received-SPF: pass receiver=logan.com; client-ip=199.185.220.224; envelope-from=haywire@telus.net Received: from Endurance ([154.20.245.217]) by priv-edtnes40.telusplanet.net (InterMail vM.6.01.04.04 201-2131-118-104-20050224) with SMTP id <20051202083246.QRCD5143.priv-edtnes40.telusplanet.net@Endurance> for ; Fri, 2 Dec 2005 01:32:46 -0700 From: "Todd Bartrim" To: "'Rotary motors in aircraft'" Subject: RE: [FlyRotary] Re: fuel/brake lines Date: Fri, 2 Dec 2005 00:32:23 -0800 Message-ID: <019301c5f71a$eb79de10$0101a8c0@Endurance> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0194_01C5F6D7.DD569E10" X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook CWS, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0194_01C5F6D7.DD569E10 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit MessageSomehow, somewhere (RVlist I think) I'd learned that ATF was almost identical to this military brake fluid, but since it is much easier to get, is why I originally went with it. I'm glad to be done with that experiment. DOT 5 is good to 550F, won't absorb water or harm paint like DOT 3&4, is readily available but is $35/litre. I've already replaced all the seals in my brake system with Viton, so compatibility shouldn't be a problem. So far the brakes seem to be perfect. I also read somewhere that (this list I think) that the short hose for a grease gun was perfect for the brake line to calliper. This sounded like a great idea and since we happened to stock a box of new ones at work for the oilers, I liberated a pair of them for use on my brakes. Unfortunately with the cold, I decided that it was a job that could wait until warmer weather and I didn't want to start an unnecessary job that would cut into any chance of flying. Any thoughts on weather this is still a good idea? Better than the ATF idea :-)? Todd Bartrim (I wish, I wish for a hangar for Christmas) RV9Endurance 13B Turbo Rotary C-FSTB http://www3.telus.net/haywire/RV-9/C-FSTB.htm "The world will always have a place for those that bring hard work and determination to the things they do." Rusty, I went with the new high flash point aircraft brake fluid (MIL-H-83282)- flash point is 450F vs 240F for the old stuff. I had to get a gallon of the stuff (enough to probably last me for years and years and years), but after the fire, I feel a bit more comfortable that it won't go up with the temp a little over the boiling point of water. I considered some of the auto brake fluids - but have heard some horror stories about incompatibility with aircraft seals - I know there is some DOT formulas that supposedly are compatible - but did not feel like experimenting {:>) Ed ------=_NextPart_000_0194_01C5F6D7.DD569E10 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message
Somehow, somewhere (RVlist I think) I'd = learned that=20 ATF was almost identical to this military brake fluid, but since it is = much=20 easier to get, is why I originally went with it. I'm glad to be done = with that=20 experiment.
DOT 5=20 is good to 550F, won't absorb water or harm paint like DOT 3&4, is = readily=20 available but is $35/litre. I've already replaced all the seals in = my brake=20 system with Viton, so compatibility shouldn't be a problem. So far the = brakes=20 seem to be perfect.
    I also read somewhere that = (this=20 list I think) that the short hose for a grease gun was perfect for the = brake=20 line to calliper. This sounded like a great idea and since we happened = to stock=20 a box of new ones at work for the oilers, I liberated a pair of them for = use on=20 my brakes. Unfortunately with the cold, I decided that it was a job that = could=20 wait until warmer weather and I didn't want to start an unnecessary = job=20 that would cut into any chance of flying. Any thoughts on weather this = is still=20 a good idea? Better than the ATF idea :-)?
 
Todd = Bartrim    (I wish, I wish for a = hangar for=20 Christmas)
 
RV9Endurance
13B Turbo = Rotary
C-FSTB
http://www3.telus.= net/haywire/RV-9/C-FSTB.htm
 
          &nbs= p; =20 "The world will always have a place for those that bring hard work and=20 determination to the things they do."
Rusty,
 
I went with the new high flash point aircraft = brake=20 fluid (MIL-H-83282)- flash point is 450F vs 240F = for the=20 old stuff.   I had to get a gallon of the stuff (enough to = probably=20 last me for years and years and years), but after the fire, I feel a = bit more=20 comfortable that it won't go up with the temp a little over the = boiling point=20 of water.  I considered some of the auto brake fluids - but have = heard=20 some horror stories about incompatibility with aircraft seals - I know = there=20 is some DOT formulas that supposedly are compatible - but did not feel = like=20 experimenting {:>)
 
Ed
 
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