Return-Path: Received: from sccrmhc12.comcast.net ([204.127.202.56] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 5.0) with ESMTP id 815315 for flyrotary@lancaironline.net; Fri, 04 Nov 2005 20:02:48 -0500 Received-SPF: none receiver=logan.com; client-ip=204.127.202.56; envelope-from=techwelding@comcast.net Received: from dell (pcp02495568pcs.paduca01.ky.comcast.net[68.63.249.158]) by comcast.net (sccrmhc12) with SMTP id <2005110501015901200mnmv5e>; Sat, 5 Nov 2005 01:01:59 +0000 Message-ID: <00f701c5e1a4$84cb9db0$9ef93f44@dell> From: "Ed Klepeis" To: "Rotary motors in aircraft" References: Subject: Re: [FlyRotary] New Muffler Date: Fri, 4 Nov 2005 19:01:55 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=response Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 Dear Larry Could you contact me off line I would like to take to you about muffler systems.thanks Regards Ed Klepeis techwelding@comcast.net ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ernest Christley" To: "Rotary motors in aircraft" Sent: Thursday, November 03, 2005 8:55 AM Subject: [FlyRotary] New Muffler > Larry LaBeau sent me some excellent data on work he's doing with his > muffler. Enjoy > > *****Begin******* > Finally found a muff that works. Similar to the tangential muffs. Used a > two cycle model airplane design program by Martin Hepperle called > "Silencer Design Application". You can input the exhaust tempreture, > engine rpm, type of fuel used, select the type of silencer and add them in > series, and then add the dimensions in millimeters. > > It plots out the DB vs Frequency with the peak rpm. I found relationships > between the dimensions that gave a smooth curve without spikes. My > thinking is this tunes the muff. Sizing of the muff was also driven by > the volume I could put it in. The material is off the shelf automotive > exhaust pipe of 16 gage. For the large can I used two 3" pipes split on > one side longitudinally and welded the edges together. > > The can has two chambers, one to expand and swirl the incoming gas, and > the second to also expand and exhaust the gas. The dimensions of the > center tube are critical as well as the dimensions for the exhaust pipe, > its length, dia, and how far it is inside the can. Some of the dimensions > are multiples of other dimensions. Like 204/102 = 2. This keeps the > spikes down or tunes the muff. > > Flight test shows a back pressure or loss of rpm of from 200 to 300. I am > planning to modify the center tube to a large diameter of from 2" to > 2-1/4". If the back pressure is still present then I will make the > exhaust tube larger. Unfortinatly this will increase the noise. Took my > headset off during flight and the greatest noise was air noise, not the > muffler as before. Results: > > rpm DB a DB c measured > inside the cabin at pilots lap position. > Idle 2K 80 100 > run up 3K 88 100.5 > climb 5.5K 96.5 107 > cruise 5.3K 96 104 > cruise 5.4K 96 105 > taxi 1.7K 78 97 > > I flew for 46 min and the muff did not fall apart. No real discoloration > except on the can's ends. I thought I would see two discolorations where > the two tubes come from the engine and blast on to the cans skin, but it > did not happen. Its a please to fly the airplane without that Mazda beat. > > The distance from the face of the engine to the cans edge is 12". To > support the aft end of the can I added a tie rod from it to the engine > mount (see photo). Weight of the muff is 11 pounds which is real good for > a nose heavy Dyke Delta. Now to get it made of SS. > > TNX > Larry La Beau > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > -- > ,|"|"|, | > ----===<{{(oQo)}}>===---- Dyke Delta | > o| d |o www.ernest.isa-geek.org | > > -- > Homepage: http://www.flyrotary.com/ > Archive and UnSub: http://mail.lancaironline.net/lists/flyrotary/