X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com Return-Path: Received: from [129.116.87.143] (HELO MAIL01.austin.utexas.edu) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 5.0c7) with ESMTP id 790467 for flyrotary@lancaironline.net; Thu, 27 Oct 2005 11:50:58 -0400 Received-SPF: none receiver=logan.com; client-ip=129.116.87.143; envelope-from=mark.steitle@austin.utexas.edu X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5.7226.0 Content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----_=_NextPart_001_01C5DB0E.1E9B0CE4" Subject: RE: [FlyRotary] Re: EM2 Calibration Date: Thu, 27 Oct 2005 10:50:13 -0500 Message-ID: <87DBA06C9A5CB84B80439BA09D86E69E02D6565C@MAIL01.austin.utexas.edu> X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: [FlyRotary] Re: EM2 Calibration Thread-Index: AcXaPq0Qu3kLtoeORMSmNc3fHNdCAgAwLkcA From: "Mark R Steitle" To: "Rotary motors in aircraft" This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------_=_NextPart_001_01C5DB0E.1E9B0CE4 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Tracy/Joe, One point of clarification on my calibration methods. I used ice to check/calibrate my thermocouples, not the sensors. =20 =20 Mark =20 ________________________________ From: Rotary motors in aircraft [mailto:flyrotary@lancaironline.net] On Behalf Of Tracy Crook Sent: Wednesday, October 26, 2005 10:04 AM To: Rotary motors in aircraft Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: EM2 Calibration =20 Hi Joe, Something not right here. The scale factor should not be negative. The default value for oil pressure channel as shipped is +9.349. Making the EM2 user calibratable so that a variety of sensors can be used is obviously a mixed blessing and there is a limit on just how far from the default sensor you can go. Are you using the recommended sensor or something else? Try to stay with the 10 - 180 ohm (low to high) VDO pressure sensor family. Trying to calibrate with an inverse sensor (low pressure =3D high resistance) is theoretically possible using negative scale factor but can be devilishly tricky to do. =20 On temp sensor calibration, do not use a low value (like ice water) as the low end calibration point. Automotive gauge sensors are not linear or accurate down there. I typically use 100 - 130 deg. F as the low end and boiling water as the upper point. Al's suggested use of an infrared temp gauge to calibrate is a good one. =20 =20 Tracy=20 ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Joe Hull =20 To: Rotary motors in aircraft =20 Sent: Wednesday, October 26, 2005 10:23 AM Subject: [FlyRotary] EM2 Calibration =20 Thanx for all the suggestions on calibrating my EM2 -=20 I spent 3 hours last night trying to calibrate just the Oil Pressure sender. Only about 30 minutes of that were real calibration tasks - the rest of the time was spent trying to get a positive number instead of a negative number. Anyone know why or how the "Scale Factor" is negative? =20 =20 If the "Scale Factor" is negative then the derived value, of course, is negative. So, I tried to see if I could get the scale factor to "wrap around" by bringing it to zero - but after hours of holding buttons and countless counts to -63.99% (and or -128) I did nothing but overflow onto the screen buffer and start popping numbers onto screen labels. So, it was the same tedium getting it back to where it was. =20 There's got to be an easier way! =20 Thanx, Joe Hull Redmond (Seattle), Washington Cozy MkIV #991 (working on Engine & Electrical & Finishing) http://www.maddyhome.com/canardpages/pages/JoeHull/index.html =20 =20 ------_=_NextPart_001_01C5DB0E.1E9B0CE4 Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

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One point of clarification on my calibration methods.  I used ice to check/calibrate my = thermocouples, not the sensors. 

 

Mark

 


From: = Rotary motors in aircraft [mailto:flyrotary@lancaironline.net] On Behalf Of Tracy Crook
Sent: Wednesday, October = 26, 2005 10:04 AM
To: Rotary motors in aircraft
Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: = EM2 Calibration

 

Hi = Joe,

Something not = right here.  The scale factor should not be negative.  The default = value for oil pressure channel as shipped is +9.349.  Making the EM2 user calibratable so that a variety of sensors can be used is obviously = a mixed blessing and there is a limit on just how far from the default = sensor you can go. Are you using the recommended sensor or something = else?  Try to stay with the 10 - 180 ohm (low to high) VDO pressure sensor = family.  Trying to calibrate with an inverse sensor (low pressure =3D high = resistance) is theoretically possible using negative scale factor but can be devilishly = tricky to do.

 

On temp = sensor calibration, do not use a low value (like ice water) as the low end = calibration point.  Automotive gauge sensors are not linear or accurate = down there.  I typically use 100 - 130  deg. F as the low end and = boiling water as the upper point.  Al's suggested use of an infrared temp = gauge to calibrate is a good one. 

 

Tracy

----- Original Message ----- =

From: Joe Hull =

Sent: Wednesday, October 26, 2005 10:23 = AM

Subject: [FlyRotary] EM2 Calibration

 

Thanx for all the suggestions on calibrating my EM2 –

I spent 3 hours last night trying = to calibrate just the Oil Pressure sender. Only about 30 minutes of that = were real calibration tasks – the rest of the time was spent trying to get a positive number instead of a negative number. Anyone know why or how the “Scale Factor” is negative? =  

 

If the “Scale Factor” = is negative then the derived value, of course, is negative. So, I tried to = see if I could get the scale factor to “wrap around” by bringing it = to zero – but after hours of holding buttons and countless counts to = -63.99% (and or -128) I did nothing but overflow onto the screen buffer and = start popping numbers onto screen labels. So, it was the same tedium getting = it back to where it was.

 

There’s got to be an easier = way!

 

Thanx,

Joe Hull

Redmond (Seattle), Washington

Cozy MkIV #991 (working on Engine = & Electrical & Finishing)

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