Mailing List flyrotary@lancaironline.net Message #26829
From: Bob Perkinson <bobperk@bellsouth.net>
Subject: RE: [FlyRotary] Re: Telling rotors apart - Never trust Atkins!
Date: Tue, 4 Oct 2005 20:32:13 -0500
To: Rotary motors in aircraft <flyrotary@lancaironline.net>
 
 
Ok, Georges, found my notes.  for the 9.7:1 the depth is 4mm.  9.4:1  is 5.5mm and the 9.1 is 7 mm.
 
Ed
 
OK Ed, I found this in my archives.

Bob Perkinson
Hendersonville, TN.
RV9 N658RP Reserved
If nothing changes
Nothing changes
 

-----Original Message-----
From: Rotary motors in aircraft [mailto:flyrotary@lancaironline.net]On Behalf Of David Leonard
Sent: Tuesday, October 04, 2005 8:03 PM
To: Rotary motors in aircraft
Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: Telling rotors apart - Never trust Atkins!

Ed, you are the best.  While you are there see if that magic book can distinguish between the different front and rear count-weights.
 
On 10/4/05, Ed Anderson <eanderson@carolina.rr.com> wrote:
Dave, I am going to have to dig through my note book out in the workshop.  But,if memory serves me correct, the 9.7:1 measures 4mm from the bottom of a straight edge across the face (long way) at its deepest part of the compression cavity.
 
Again, I will check my note book and get back to you but I think the 9.4:1 measured around 5- 5 1/2 mm and the 9.1:1 measured at 7mm.
 
Ed A
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Tuesday, October 04, 2005 7:21 PM
Subject: [FlyRotary] Telling rotors apart - Never trust Atkins!

 

On 9/28/05, Kelly Troyer <keltro@att.net> wrote:
 
  Ed Anderson has a measurement to check the depth of the combustion depression in the
face of the rotor to determine the compression ratio (the deeper one is turbo).......
 
How about it Ed, any info on this?  Can it be used to tell the 9.4:1 86-88 rotors from the 9.7:1  rotors?

 Bottom line check weight first then check the depth of the combustion depression........I have
another way I use to determine what year my rotors are (all my engines are NA 86 to 91).....The
combustion depression in the 86 to 88 is as cast in the rotor (slight grainy surface finish).....The
89-91 depression is machined and has straight machine marks.......
 
That is really interesting.  My old rotors are supposed to be 1991 T2 rotors but they have the cast appearance (However since I got them from Atkins I am not really sure they gave me what they sold me).  The rotors that Earnest sent also have a cast appearance.  But as I recall, the rotors in the engine I rebuilt had the milling marks...   hmmm..  if that is true the balance in my current engine is all SNAFU.  Are you sure that system is a valid way to do the measuring?
 
So I just got back from weighing my rotors - Sure enough, the ones Atkins sold me weighted in at 10.20 and 10.19 making them the 86-88 variety despite the fact that I paid for a '91 engine.  Worse, I have no idea what counter-weights he decided to use.  If it matched the rotors he sold me then I have been running an unbalanced engine for the last 150 hrs.  (that explains part of why the wife won't fly in it)
 
Does anyone know what the correct weights of the counter weights should be for a given year group?  Or perhaps some other way of telling them apart?
 
BTW Ernest, the rotors you sent also weigh in at 10.18.
 
Dave Leonard


 
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