Mailing List flyrotary@lancaironline.net Message #26813
From: Tracy Crook <lors01@msn.com>
Subject: Re: [FlyRotary] Re:Thermal Pellet/ EC2 comments
Date: Fri, 30 Sep 2005 13:17:52 -0400
To: Rotary motors in aircraft <flyrotary@lancaironline.net>
The advice I gave in the conversion guide (on thermal pellet disabling) was based on Racing Beat's info on the subject.  There are two reasons why I decided to do it. 
 
1.  It eliminates a possible failure mode should the thermal pellet fail in open position.  Likelihood of this is not known AFAIK.
 
2.  The oil pressure to the main and rotor bearings is reduced to a very low level during warmup.  If you over-rev the engine during this period you may damage the bearings and if the load on the engine is high, the oil seal O-rings will be overheated and ruined due to the lack of oil cooling to the rotors during this period.  The first engine I installed in the RV-4 had suffered this by it's previous owner.
 
EC2 stuff
Sorry for the delay in feedback to Dave Leonard's question on EC2 programming.  Been buried with work after the Colorado trip (which was a blast!)
 
Not that Dave has not already done this, but the first step in successfully programming the EC2 is to read and understand the theory of operation in the installation guide.  Getting a good mental picture of what you are doing in each of the programming modes is essential.   Especially important is to understand that manifold pressure is the KEY factor in setting up the MAP table.  Many builders will report to me that they programmed the controller (in mode 1) in 100 or 200 RPM steps and it still has places in the throttle setting where the mixture goes way rich or lean.  Although RPM is related to MP, it's not the same thing.   Two instruments are vital during EC2 programming :  A properly functioning mixture monitor and a Manifold Absolute Pressure gauge.
 
Even after you understand the theory, it can still be tricky to program the EC2 in certain spots like the staging point where it switches from 2 to 4 injectors.  I'd do this before shipping them but because every installation is different, this is not possible.  I'm constantly refining the software to make this easier.
 
I fully understand why it would make a builder nervous when depending on a single (and very small) source for key parts of the engine installation.  This is a two-edged sword however.  Being small means that it may vanish with the owner's death or retirement.  But on the other hand, it means that you can personally talk to the engineer who designed the equipment and who will do everything he can to help make the project a success.  Take advantage of that.  Be willing to do your homework and reading assignments though : )
 
Just moved Finn's engine/forward section of fuselage to the storage hangar.  Finn suggested that it and the rest of the RV-3 in the woods might be an interesting tour during the Rotary Roundup fly-in next month.
 
Tracy (back to the grindstone)
 
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Wednesday, September 28, 2005 9:42 PM
Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: Renesis Thermal Pellet

Leon,

Have you any comments on removing or leaving in the themal pellet.  I'm ready to remove my engnie from the motor mount and borrow a "large" impact wrench to remove the bolt tomorrow.   Your advice based on years of experience always makes perfict sence.  I'd really like your advisce on this before I move ahead on it.

Dennis H.! 

Leon Promet wrote:
Hi Guys,

Can someone please tell me why you want to remove the thermal pellet
please??

Leon

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Dennis Haverlah" <clouduster@austin.rr.com>
To: "Rotary motors in aircraft" <flyrotary@lancaironline.net>
Sent: Monday, September 26, 2005 11:56 PM
Subject: [FlyRotary] Renesis Thermal Pellet


  
Bill Dube posted several notes on removing the "E" shaft bolt and
thermal pellet from a Renesis.  At the time I didn't pay much
attention.  Now I'm ready to remove mine and can't get the bolt out!!
Has anyone found a source for the thermal pellet replacement pin (for
the Renesis) to keep the oil passage open!  Bill - could you give me
details as to how you blocked the "E" shaft flywheel and any other
helpful information - I have Tracy's 3.85 gear box already mounted.  I
tried blocking the damper weight with a block of aluminum and using a
LONG cheater I still could not break the bolt loose.   I wonder why the
factory put them in so tight?  Is it necessary to first heat the bolt
with a torch?

Thanks,

Dennis H.
RV-7A, Renesis
Austin, Tx

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