X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com Return-Path: Received: from relay04.roc.ny.frontiernet.net ([66.133.182.167] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 5.0c2) with ESMTP id 713753 for flyrotary@lancaironline.net; Wed, 07 Sep 2005 00:20:00 -0400 Received-SPF: pass receiver=logan.com; client-ip=66.133.182.167; envelope-from=canarder@frontiernet.net Received: from filter04.roc.ny.frontiernet.net (filter04.roc.ny.frontiernet.net [66.133.183.71]) by relay04.roc.ny.frontiernet.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id ABA88358332 for ; Wed, 7 Sep 2005 04:19:15 +0000 (UTC) Received: from relay04.roc.ny.frontiernet.net ([66.133.182.167]) by filter04.roc.ny.frontiernet.net (filter04.roc.ny.frontiernet.net [66.133.183.71]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id 12950-02-46 for ; Wed, 7 Sep 2005 04:19:15 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [127.0.0.1] (70-98-143-148.dsl1.csv.tn.frontiernet.net [70.98.143.148]) by relay04.roc.ny.frontiernet.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4F134358239 for ; Wed, 7 Sep 2005 04:19:15 +0000 (UTC) Message-ID: <431E6A41.2080909@frontiernet.net> Date: Tue, 06 Sep 2005 23:19:13 -0500 From: Jim Sower User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7) Gecko/20040514 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Rotary motors in aircraft Subject: Re: [FlyRotary] Re: Alternative fuel References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Antivirus: avast! (VPS 0536-1, 09/06/2005), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new-2.3.2 (20050629) at filter04.roc.ny.frontiernet.net My best information is that alcohol in gas has a TERRIBLE effect on common composite structures. Alcohol by itself isn't corrosive, nor is water. But if you have alcohol, you WILL have water mixed in with it and it's the mixture that's so corrosive to composite fuel tanks (strakes). You need to research this VERY CAREFULLY before you commit to anything. I've heard lots more bad stuff than good about alcohol ... Jim S. Ernest Christley wrote: > Denny wrote: > >> The research has proven that ethanol-based avgas not only is a >> suitable replacement to 100LL, it is actually a superior fuel. >> >> > My take is that "suitable" and "superior" are weasle words that have > no meaning beyond what the user wants them to mean. > > My guess is that "suitable" means the plane can get off the ground > with it, even if it has to have aerial refuelling at the end of the > runway and all the plastic seals in the fuel line are eaten away > before it can finish flying the pattern. "Superior" would mean that > they make a little more margin on it than 100LL. Of course, I could > be wrong. >