X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com Return-Path: Received: from [24.25.9.102] (HELO ms-smtp-03-eri0.southeast.rr.com) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 5.0c2) with ESMTP id 713596 for flyrotary@lancaironline.net; Tue, 06 Sep 2005 21:39:30 -0400 Received-SPF: pass receiver=logan.com; client-ip=24.25.9.102; envelope-from=eanderson@carolina.rr.com Received: from edward2 (cpe-065-188-083-049.carolina.res.rr.com [65.188.83.49]) by ms-smtp-03-eri0.southeast.rr.com (8.12.10/8.12.7) with SMTP id j871ciY5001253 for ; Tue, 6 Sep 2005 21:38:45 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <001901c5b34c$e3253500$2402a8c0@edward2> From: "Ed Anderson" To: "Rotary motors in aircraft" References: Subject: Re: [FlyRotary] Re: Alternative fuel Date: Tue, 6 Sep 2005 21:38:45 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0016_01C5B32B.5BDCCD90" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 X-Virus-Scanned: Symantec AntiVirus Scan Engine This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0016_01C5B32B.5BDCCD90 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MessageMust be Swedish Magic {:>). Energy content is energy content - = takes energy to make power. So unless the references I got about the = relative energy content of ethanol vs gasoline were flawed, I'll stand = by my assertion {:>). Besides they don't give you any specs about the = parameters underwhich they make the power. I can take an engine that = makes 180 HP on ethanol and have it only make 140 HP on gasoline - if = you simply take your foot off the throttle {:>) Trouble maker {:>) Ed ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Russell Duffy=20 To: Rotary motors in aircraft=20 Sent: Tuesday, September 06, 2005 6:54 PM Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: Alternative fuel A gallon of ethanol has an energy content of 83,333 BTU. A gallon of = gasoline has 123,222 BTU of energy (varies a bit by octane). So = gasoline has an approx 48 % advantage in energy. So assuming an engine = was equally efficient on either fuel (which as you point out they are = not likely to be), you could produce more power and fly further|Faster = on gallon of gasoline than a gallon of ehtanol. =20 Hi Ed, I officially predict that you'll go looking for Saab info right after = you read this: http://www.age85.org/PressReleases/Detail.cfm?Ap=3D6 This isn't going to be another one of those MAP things is it :-) =20 Cheers, Rusty (stirring up trouble again) ------=_NextPart_000_0016_01C5B32B.5BDCCD90 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message
Must be Swedish Magic {:>).  Energy = content is=20 energy content - takes energy to make power.  So unless the = references I=20 got about the relative energy content of ethanol vs gasoline were = flawed, I'll=20 stand by my assertion {:>).  Besides they don't give you any = specs about=20 the parameters underwhich they make the power.  I can take an = engine that=20 makes 180 HP on ethanol and have it only make 140 HP on gasoline - if = you simply=20 take your foot off the throttle {:>)
 
Trouble maker {:>)
 
Ed
----- Original Message -----
From:=20 Russell=20 Duffy
Sent: Tuesday, September 06, = 2005 6:54=20 PM
Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: = Alternative=20 fuel

A gallon of ethanol has an energy content of = 83,333=20 BTU.  A gallon of gasoline has 123,222 BTU of energy  = (varies a bit=20 by octane).  So gasoline has an approx 48 % advantage in = energy.  So=20 assuming an engine was equally efficient on either fuel (which as you = point=20 out they are not likely to be), you could produce more power and fly=20 further|Faster on gallon of gasoline than a gallon of=20 ehtanol.   
 
Hi=20 Ed,
 
I=20 officially predict that you'll go looking for Saab info right after = you read=20 this:
http://www.= age85.org/PressReleases/Detail.cfm?Ap=3D6
 
This isn't=20 going to be another one of those MAP things is it=20 :-)   
 
Cheers,
Rusty=20 (stirring up trouble again)
 
 
 
 
  
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