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X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com Return-Path: <13brv3@bellsouth.net> Received: from imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net ([205.152.59.70] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.3.6) with ESMTP id 627030 for flyrotary@lancaironline.net; Sat, 06 Aug 2005 19:12:56 -0400 Received-SPF: pass receiver=logan.com; client-ip=205.152.59.70; envelope-from=13brv3@bellsouth.net Received: from ibm65aec.bellsouth.net ([65.6.194.9]) by imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net with ESMTP id <20050806231207.MLJW18369.imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net@ibm65aec.bellsouth.net> for ; Sat, 6 Aug 2005 19:12:07 -0400 Received: from rd ([65.6.194.9]) by ibm65aec.bellsouth.net with ESMTP id <20050806231207.DPPU225.ibm65aec.bellsouth.net@rd> for ; Sat, 6 Aug 2005 19:12:07 -0400 From: "Russell Duffy" <13brv3@bellsouth.net> To: "'Rotary motors in aircraft'" Subject: RE: [FlyRotary] Spectrum Aviation was Re: AirCam Alaska Pics (not rotary related yet) Date: Sat, 6 Aug 2005 18:12:07 -0500 Message-ID: <000701c59adc$4441e920$6101a8c0@rd> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0008_01C59AB2.5B6BE120" X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.6626 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2527 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0008_01C59AB2.5B6BE120 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I don't know the prices for the the Aeroprakt Fleet, http://www.aeroprakt.kiev.ua/eng_html/main.html BUT I do know the price for the Aircam - out of this universe you might as well check on the Aeroprakt-Twins.....=20 =20 Hi Thomas, =20 In the US, the dealer for Aeroprakt is Spectrum Aviation (John Hunter, formerly of AirCam). As it turns out, I sent them a message to ask = about the availability of the A-36 Vulcan, which is a twin that's made for = 912S engines. In my message, I mentioned that I would be interested in using = two single rotor Mazda engines. Their reply, was a wee bit less than encouraging, and I replied with my personal feelings on his arrogance = and closed mindedness. =20 =20 Here are two excerpts from his message: =20 Hello Rusty. The A-36, now going into production, is out of the = development stage (including engine choice, mounts, installation & cowling). It is = not an amateur design (like the 'Cam), and consideration of scabbing = automotive engines on it seems highly illogical to me. I understand that some = people are dreamers & that some like to tinker, but the A-36 is for those who = like to fly, and Aeroprakt has taken good care of the engineering. We'd = prefer that you find some other design to mess with... In the A-36's last 3 years of development, the only "suggestions" for alternate engines have been: the R-914 (overkill), Jabaru (groan), and = now Mazda. It's a human failing that the grass is always greener & there's always a better mousetrap... =20 Cheers, Rusty (scabbing automotive engines) =20 =20 =20 ------=_NextPart_000_0008_01C59AB2.5B6BE120 Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message

I don't know the prices for the the Aeroprakt = Fleet, http://www.aerop= rakt.kiev.ua/eng_html/main.html

BUT I do know the price for the Aircam - out of = this=20 universe

you might as well check on the = Aeroprakt-Twins.....

Hi=20 Thomas,

In the=20 US, the dealer for Aeroprakt is Spectrum Aviation (John Hunter, formerly = of=20 AirCam). As it turns out, I sent them a message to ask about the=20 availability of the A-36 Vulcan, which is a twin that's made for 912S=20 engines. In my message, I mentioned that I would be = interested=20 in using two single rotor Mazda engines. Their reply, was a wee = bit less=20 than encouraging, and I replied with my personal feelings on his = arrogance=20 and closed mindedness.

Here are two=20 excerpts from his message:

Hello Rusty. The A-36, now = going into=20 production, is out of the development stage (including engine choice, = mounts,=20 installation & cowling). It is not an amateur design (like the = 'Cam), and=20 consideration of scabbing automotive engines on it seems highly = illogical to me.=20 I understand that some people are dreamers & that some like to = tinker, but=20 the A-36 is for those who like to fly, and Aeroprakt has taken good care = of the=20 engineering. We'd prefer that you find some other design to mess=20 with...

In the A-36's last 3 years of = development,=20 the only "suggestions" for alternate engines have been: the R-914 = (overkill),=20 Jabaru (groan), and now Mazda. It's a human failing that the grass is = always=20 greener & there's always a better=20 mousetrap...

Cheers,

Rusty=20 (scabbing automotive engines)

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