X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com Return-Path: Received: from smtpauth01.mail.atl.earthlink.net ([209.86.89.61] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.3.6) with ESMTP id 625648 for flyrotary@lancaironline.net; Fri, 05 Aug 2005 07:59:08 -0400 Received-SPF: none receiver=logan.com; client-ip=209.86.89.61; envelope-from=Dastaten@earthlink.net Received: from [24.238.206.157] (helo=earthlink.net) by smtpauth01.mail.atl.earthlink.net with asmtp (Exim 4.34) id 1E10qF-0004Ku-L2 for flyrotary@lancaironline.net; Fri, 05 Aug 2005 07:58:23 -0400 Message-ID: <42F35377.9080309@earthlink.net> Date: Fri, 05 Aug 2005 06:54:31 -0500 From: David Staten User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.4) Gecko/20030624 Netscape/7.1 (ax) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Rotary motors in aircraft Subject: Re: [FlyRotary] Re: / Back from Osh References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-ELNK-Trace: 9a30bff84e6cb88f95c85d38d22416599ef193a6bfc3dd484ad4db90a0f1ab4a0cdb7e9f7d4bd2d73d22eb99cf5c6dcb350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c X-Originating-IP: 24.238.206.157 The ASRS form wont do a thing in this case to protect against enforcement. The enforcement amnesty does not apply to intentional deviations from the rule
 
Two issues are concrete by admission: Operating above specified altitudes without oxygen and operating in Class A airspace without an IFR clearance. Neither were inadverdent. To add teeth to any proceding, the FAA could invoke reckless and careless. If Tracy wanted protection he would have needed to declared an emergency (and preferably communicated that.
 
Dave Staten

William wrote:
Wouldn't hurt to file a NASA ASRS form as insurance.
Bill Schertz
KIS Cruiser # 4045
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Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: / Back from Osh

Dave S., Bernie, et al,  Point well taken. 
Yes, I was very lucky and will never do that again.  I thought about the x-p squawking to the world how dumb this pilot over Ga was but didn't dare turn it off.  I was on top of Atlanta Hartsfield class B much of the time and decided they would be less concerned about somebody straying above 18,000 than they would about a plane at unknown altitude inside their class B.
 
Tracy  (hoping the FAA does not monitor this list : ) 
 
 
On Thu, 4 Aug 2005 12:31:15 -0400 "Tracy Crook" <lors01@msn.com> writes:
  Class A here I come, I'll deal with FAA if I have to.   By the time I spiraled down through closely spaced thunderstorms in Florida I had spent about 2 hours between 16 and 18 thousand feet.  It was a fairly high stress period.
 
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Wow! You're too much Tracy. You are cottonpicking lucky you did not hypoxia and pull the Otter apart. Did you turn off the alt x-p during the period over 18K?  I know you did not talk to anyone so doubt they can trace you anyway.
 
Putting a larger cowl flap door, now have reasonable feeling cranking compression.
 
Bernie