X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com Return-Path: Received: from mail2.mx.voyager.net ([216.93.66.206] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.3.6) with ESMTP id 625267 for flyrotary@lancaironline.net; Thu, 04 Aug 2005 19:32:30 -0400 Received-SPF: none receiver=logan.com; client-ip=216.93.66.206; envelope-from=dsbarno@vbe.com Received: from u036fr3za011 (d88.as0.wtma.wi.core.com [64.77.139.154]) by mail2.mx.voyager.net (8.13.2/8.10.2) with SMTP id j74NVjqM093921 for ; Thu, 4 Aug 2005 19:31:45 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <006f01c5994d$415a5de0$3c40fea9@u036fr3za011> From: "Barnhart" To: "Rotary motors in aircraft" References: Subject: Re: [FlyRotary] Back from Osh Date: Thu, 4 Aug 2005 18:35:52 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_006C_01C59923.57D35560" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1123 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1123 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_006C_01C59923.57D35560 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Reminds me of the old HALO days.... I've seen some starting to loose it = at 18,000 for a short time. Lucky Tracy.=20 Kelly. Ron and I both have a "couple" of jumps. Maybe a leap into = Shady Bend from a rotary. Hope this won't give Tracy/Laura a heart = attack.=20 The Oshkosh banquet had about 20 people show up for ribeyes. Paul gave = an unofficial talk on fuel systems and fuselage structure in canards. = Learned alot about flying 20bt's from Tom Parkes. Most were coming back = after last years banquet.=20 After the "banquet" in the garage during Oshkosh, Ron and I went through = my old rig. Getting an easy fix up in Kansas from Ron who is also a = rigger.=20 Barny MGDQ 20bt ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Kelly Troyer=20 To: Rotary motors in aircraft=20 Sent: Thursday, August 04, 2005 11:45 AM Subject: [FlyRotary] Back from Osh Wow Tracy, My blood pressure was up just reading about it........Got some of = the same=20 feelings as from my skydiving days.......So glad to hear you are home = and healthy !! -- Kelly Troyer=20 Dyke Delta/13B/RD1C/EC2=20 -------------- Original message from "Tracy Crook" : = --------------=20 Back from Osh (great trip, 7 rotaries there) after an eventful = return flight. Entire state of Georgia was under a big dome of clouds = with MVFR conditions below. I made the decision to go on top which was = at around 12,500 ft when I reached edge of cloud cover at north end of = Ga. Had grand view of weather and could easily navigate around = thunderstorms that had buildups into FL 40. Bad news was that top of = cloud cover kept rising as I flew across Georgia and eventually reached = 18,000 ft by the time I reached the southern edge of cloud cover near = Florida border. Did I mention that I have no Oxygen on board? Had one exciting moment when I encountered one of those very thin = gauzy looking cloud layers at 18,000. Not wanting to break into Class A = airspace I descended through it figuring I would fly in the 200 foot gap = between it and the cloud layer below for the few minutes it would take = to get past it. The canopy (and wing too I suspect) immediately started = accumulating ice. Class A here I come, I'll deal with FAA if I have to. = By the time I spiraled down through closely spaced thunderstorms in = Florida I had spent about 2 hours between 16 and 18 thousand feet. It = was a fairly high stress period. Shady Bend was under a thunderstorm by this time so I diverted to = Lake City and landed. It was hot, I was dehydrated from not drinking = enough water and the 3 G spiral down through the clouds added to the = discomfort level. Nevertheless, I felt OK at touch down but by the time = I taxied to the FBO I felt violently ill. I assumed it was the hypoxia = and heat exhaustion (had that back in Army days) but Laura was concerned = that the symptoms could be heart attack. Went to hospital and blood = tests showed slightly elevated enzyme that indicates possible heart = attack. Great. Now I am obligated to go through the whole drill = (cardiac catheterization) to prove it was not a heart problem if I = wanted to keep my pilots license. Test came out good (cardiac guy said = arteries clean as a whistle and hopes his heart looks that good at 57). The plane was magnificent the whole trip and did anything I asked of = it. Still had respectable rate of climb at 18,500 (who needs a turbo?), = engine never skipped a beat, burned 101 gallons in 17.1 hours of flight = (includes taxi time) so fuel burn averaged about 6 gph. Glad to be = home. Tracy (belatedly ordering Oxygen system)=20 -------------------------------------------------------------------------= ----- This message scanned for viruses by CoreComm ------=_NextPart_000_006C_01C59923.57D35560 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Reminds me of the old HALO = days.... I've seen=20 some starting to loose it at 18,000 for a short time. Lucky  Tracy. =
 
Kelly.  Ron and I both have a = "couple" of=20 jumps.  Maybe a leap into Shady Bend from a rotary. Hope this = won't=20 give Tracy/Laura a heart attack.
 
The Oshkosh banquet had about 20 people = show up for=20 ribeyes.  Paul gave an unofficial talk on fuel systems and fuselage = structure in canards. Learned alot about flying 20bt's from Tom Parkes. = Most=20 were coming back after last years banquet.
 
After the "banquet" in the garage = during Oshkosh,=20 Ron and I went through my old rig.  Getting an easy fix up in = Kansas=20 from Ron who is also a rigger.
 
Barny
MGDQ 20bt
----- Original Message -----
From:=20 Kelly = Troyer
Sent: Thursday, August 04, 2005 = 11:45=20 AM
Subject: [FlyRotary] Back from = Osh

Wow Tracy,
 
   My blood pressure was up just reading about = it........Got=20 some of the same
feelings as from my skydiving days.......So glad to hear you are = home=20 and
healthy !!
--
Kelly Troyer
Dyke=20 Delta/13B/RD1C/EC2




--------------=20 Original message from "Tracy Crook" <lors01@msn.com>: = --------------
 
 
Back from Osh (great trip, 7 rotaries there) after an eventful = return=20 flight.  Entire state of Georgia was under a big dome of=20 clouds with MVFR conditions below.  I made the = decision to go=20 on top which was at around 12,500 ft when I reached edge of cloud=20 cover at north end of Ga.  Had grand view of weather and = could=20 easily navigate around thunderstorms that had buildups into FL=20 40.  Bad news was that top of cloud cover kept rising as I = flew=20 across Georgia and eventually reached 18,000 ft by the time I = reached=20 the southern edge of cloud cover near Florida border.  Did I = mention=20 that I have no Oxygen on board?
 
  Had one exciting moment when I encountered one of = those=20 very thin gauzy looking cloud layers at 18,000.  Not wanting to = break=20 into Class A airspace I descended through it figuring I would = fly in=20 the 200 foot gap between it and the cloud layer below for the few = minutes it=20 would take to get past it. The canopy (and wing too I=20 suspect) immediately started accumulating ice.  Class = A here=20 I come, I'll deal with FAA if I have to.   By the = time I=20 spiraled down through closely spaced thunderstorms in Florida I had=20 spent about 2 hours between 16 and 18 thousand feet.  It = was a=20 fairly high stress period.
 
Shady Bend was under a thunderstorm by this time so I = diverted to Lake City and landed.   It was hot, I was = dehydrated=20 from not drinking enough water and the 3 G spiral down through the = clouds=20 added to the discomfort level.  Nevertheless, I felt OK at = touch down=20 but by the time I taxied to the FBO I felt violently ill. I = assumed it=20 was the hypoxia and heat exhaustion (had that back in Army days) but = Laura=20 was concerned that the symptoms could be heart attack.  Went to = hospital and blood tests showed slightly elevated enzyme that = indicates=20 possible heart attack.  Great.  Now I am obligated to go = through=20 the whole drill (cardiac catheterization)  to prove it was not = a heart=20 problem if I wanted to keep my pilots license.  Test came out = good=20 (cardiac guy said arteries clean as a whistle and hopes his = heart looks=20 that good at 57).
 
The plane was magnificent the whole trip and did anything I = asked of=20 it.  Still had respectable rate of climb at 18,500 (who needs a = turbo?), engine never skipped a beat, burned 101 gallons in 17.1 = hours of=20 flight (includes taxi time) so fuel burn averaged about 6 gph.  = Glad to=20 be home.
 
Tracy  (belatedly ordering Oxygen system)
 
 
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