X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com Return-Path: Received: from smtpauth01.mail.atl.earthlink.net ([209.86.89.61] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.3.6) with ESMTP id 611088 for flyrotary@lancaironline.net; Thu, 21 Jul 2005 20:22:53 -0400 Received-SPF: none receiver=logan.com; client-ip=209.86.89.61; envelope-from=Dastaten@earthlink.net Received: from [24.238.206.157] (helo=earthlink.net) by smtpauth01.mail.atl.earthlink.net with asmtp (Exim 4.34) id 1DvlIm-0006Si-Lf for flyrotary@lancaironline.net; Thu, 21 Jul 2005 20:22:08 -0400 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=simple; s=test1; d=earthlink.net; h=Message-ID:Date:From:User-Agent:X-Accept-Language:MIME-Version:To:Subject:References:In-Reply-To:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=HwIkuTY/pEHYMD5BO8km//Vd4mZ1qYI53B8YsKNly0NIZghmrvq3YMBmwC0n79p9; Message-ID: <42E03C3A.6080402@earthlink.net> Date: Thu, 21 Jul 2005 19:22:18 -0500 From: David Staten User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.4) Gecko/20030624 Netscape/7.1 (ax) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Rotary motors in aircraft Subject: Re: [FlyRotary] It is worse than you think (was: FAA - we're here to help you) References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-ELNK-Trace: 9a30bff84e6cb88f95c85d38d22416599ef193a6bfc3dd4850ef51f0764fa3157e19145538cd9eac189477d7828d6397350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c X-Originating-IP: 24.238.206.157 In the initial investigation, they simply matched social security numbers of pilots in the database with social security numbers of persons recieving disability benefits. Nothing more, nothing less. On the "HITS" they obtained, those are the ones who's records got pulled.. and from a probable cause standpoint, I'd have to agree that was appropriate. Given that this was a CRIMINAL investigation, they are under no obligation to notify you that you (or your medical records that YOU HAVE ALREADY VOLUNTARILY sumbitted to the government) are under investigation and then one day they show up and serve you with an indictment. This isnt "big brother".. this is long overdue. These are people who are concurrently claiming disability AND renewing/obtaining medicals. Dave Bill Dube wrote: > >> >> I wouldn't get so excited about this sort of thing yet, Dave. First >> off, they only found 48 problems in 40,000. > > > An important issue that most folks haven't noticed is that > they searched the medical records of everyone that holds a pilot's > license and reported a disability. Were any of us notified that our > private medical records had been searched? How many folk's private > medical records were searched without probable cause? Does holding a > pilot's license somehow give the FAA permission to search your private > medical records without even telling you about it? Apparently, it does. > > Disability comes in many flavors. A person can be disabled > because they are allergic to some chemical at work. A person could > lose a foot or a hand. A person could have arthritis, or carpel tunnel > syndrome. There are plenty of disabilities that would prevent you from > doing a specific job, but have no influence on your ability to fly an > airplane. > > Under the Patriot Act, they can search your medical records > without telling you EVER. Your doctor is not even allowed to ask his > lawyer if he must comply with the search or find out what records can > be excluded. Your doctor is forbidden from telling you that your > records have been searched, ever. > > Scary, huh..... > > Bill Dube' > > >>> Homepage: http://www.flyrotary.com/ >>> Archive: http://lancaironline.net/lists/flyrotary/List.html >> >